Something I should say more often

[CoccoBill]

At least here we have fairly decent unemployment benefits, but if you have really any income, even part-time or sporadic work, you lose all benefits. That means if you can't get a proper job you're trained for and would actually want to do, it's better to just stay home than try to get some extra income.

The same applies for small businesses. If you start a company, it doesn't even have to generate any income for you to lose your eligibility for unemployment benefits, which makes starting a business damn risky.

UBI would fix these, with far far less administrative costs than with running several benefits programs.

[wufwugy]

At least here we have fairly decent unemployment benefits, but if you have really any income, even part-time or sporadic work, you lose all benefits. That means if you can't get a proper job you're trained for and would actually want to do, it's better to just stay home than try to get some extra income.

The same applies for small businesses. If you start a company, it doesn't even have to generate any income for you to lose your eligibility for unemployment benefits, which makes starting a business damn risky.

UBI would fix these, with far far less administrative costs than with running several benefits programs.

Great points.

I probably ultimately prefer a UBI system with zero other welfare programs over the mess of poverty traps and abuse we have have now.

The main consideration is what level of UBI wouldn't have too big of a negative impact on the incentive to produce.