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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    I guess because many other countries aren't as systematically racist as USA?

    Another question might be... why does it take racism in USA to cause a global movement? Why not the countless other examples of racism that goes on around the world? Why is American racism more important?
    I think a few things happened to create the perfect shitstorm here.

    1. The pandemic causes a lot of angst that is giving people a lot of pent up frustration. It also means a lot of people aren't working and/or haven't been out of the house in weeks, and this is a good excuse to go out. Not saying those are the main reasons they're protesting in such large numbers, but theyr'e contributing factors.

    2. There were incidents that occurred in the US leading up to Floyd's murder. Not just a few years back, but more recently with a couple of those Karen videos.

    3. This was a particularly stark, brutal and deliberate murder. It wasn't a cop panicking and shooting someone in two seconds, it was a cop taking his time and killing someone over several minutes, knowing he was being filmed doing it, while other cops watched and did nothing, knowing they were being filmed doing nothing. You can sort of excuse someone being scared and shooting someone else (sort of), but this guy was in no danger and had a lot of time to consider his options. And so did his fellow cops. So, this was completely indefensible.

    Add 1 ,2, and 3 together and it all kicked off. I think 1) is probably the predominant reason for the demonstrations outside the US though. I'm sure these people believe they're in the right, but if it were 'normal' times I doubt we'd have this worldwide thing going on. Could be wrong though.
    I just think we should suspend judgment on Boris until we have all the facts through an inquiry, police investigation, and parliamentary commission...then we should explode him.
    also,
    I'd like to be called Lord Poopy His Most Gloriously Excellent.
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    They all go before a jury in the US afaik. Someone else might know more about this than I.
    If they already go up before a jury, then what's happening? The jury is being hand picked? How do you fix that?

    I'm sure some of them are, but there's plenty of video evidence that shows that's not their first response, including at the protests themselves. That suggests to me it isn't being given a high enough priority in their training, if any.

    Just because they use force in some cases as a first response, that doesn't mean they are not trained to deescalate. The balance clearly isn't right, but I'd be amazed if they actually omit this aspect of the training.

    It'd be a pretty damned good start though.

    Well again we're probably going to see it happen. I can't see how this guy dodges jail.
    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    ongies gonna ong

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