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[bigspenda73]

south park is awful

maybe I have a slanted perspective of these shows because I'm Jewish and actually respect my heritage/background and find it hard to support shows that constantly use stereotypes in a shocking manner because they cannot think of anything clever.

[will641]

south park is awful

maybe I have a slanted perspective of these shows because I'm Jewish and actually respect my heritage/background and find it hard to support shows that constantly use stereotypes in a shocking manner because they cannot think of anything clever.

well they make fun of everything, so i wouldnt take it personally.

[BankItDrew]

south park is awful

maybe I have a slanted perspective of these shows because I'm Jewish and actually respect my heritage/background and find it hard to support shows that constantly use stereotypes in a shocking manner because they cannot think of anything clever.

Every single plot for the last couple years has been extremely clever. I think you are referring to the subjokes to the plot (which are always one big jokes). The ones that make fun of everyone.

"The internet is down" is clever:


I could find something original and clever from every episode if I tried.

[givememyleg]

south park is awful

maybe I have a slanted perspective of these shows because I'm Jewish and actually respect my heritage/background and find it hard to support shows that constantly use stereotypes in a shocking manner because they cannot think of anything clever.

they're pretty fair about stereotyping and making fun of all religions, beliefs, people, etc imo. one of the characters just happens to be jewish and another one just happens to be an asshole that rips on him for it.

also, i believe the show is very clever.

[givememyleg]

lol 3 replies to spenda's post in 4 mins time. we the people of ftr respect south park.

[wesrman]

lol 3 replies to spenda's post in 4 mins time. we the people of ftr respect south park.

Its pure genius ldo.

[BankItDrew]

i honestly think spenda should get a strike

[bigspenda73]

I don't want to get into some full-blown argument, and some people might call me a bit hypocritical, but I don't like to support shows that abuse stereotypes.

I feel like there is a fine line between Seinfeld type Jewish humor and the things I've seen on South Park in the past (I probably haven't seen an episode in 3+ years).

[Pelion]

south park is awful

maybe I have a slanted perspective of these shows because I'm Jewish and actually respect my heritage/background and find it hard to support shows that constantly use stereotypes in a shocking manner because they cannot think of anything clever.

Southpark is probably the cleverest cartoon out there imo. The plot is almost always related to some intelligent point or satire on real world events. Its much better than family guy where the jokes all start with "reminds me of the time when...." and then something thats completely detatched from whats happened so far.

Southpark > Simpsons > Family Guy imo.

[Galapogos]

I don't want to get into some full-blown argument, and some people might call me a bit hypocritical, but I don't like to support shows that abuse stereotypes.

Not trying to perpetuate a full blown argument but I think you're mistaking satire for making fun of. Serious question, did you not like Borat?

[wufwugy]

south park has so many jew jokes because matt and trey have been long time friends and matt is jewish and trey always razzed him about it

and we cant compare the shows unless we have guidelines upon which to compare. simpsons is epic because it's so original and overall very funny, family guy is epic because the first four seasons were among the funniest things on television

its always sunny in philadelphia beats them all anyways

[bigspenda73]

no, not a big fan of Borat either, saw the movie blown out of my mind and I still didn't find it that funny

[wesrman]

no, not a big fan of Borat either, saw the movie blown out of my mind and I still didn't find it that funny

Wow.

[will641]

no, not a big fan of Borat either, saw the movie blown out of my mind and I still didn't find it that funny

Wow.

what is funny to you spenda?

[givememyleg]

shows that stereotype other peoples beliefs, not his

BA ZING!

[BankItDrew]

why doesn't spenda have a strike yet for the posts he's made in this thread? has a mod not seen them yet?

[swiggidy]

I don't want to get into some full-blown argument, and some people might call me a bit hypocritical, but I don't like to support shows that abuse stereotypes.

I feel like there is a fine line between Seinfeld type Jewish humor and the things I've seen on South Park in the past (I probably haven't seen an episode in 3+ years).

I feel like we had this conversation IRL.

I think abusing stereotypes is the best kind of humor.

[Jack Sawyer]

AL BUNDY FTW!

spenda, i'd have to say its your choice (to not watch x shows based on religion stuff) and i respect it. i still think its bullshit though, but i respect it.

[bigspenda73]

Thx Jack Attack

anyways, I'm not the kind of person that hears an off-color jewish joke and sits back and takes it. So, in that same sense, I'm not going to be a person who supports shows or anything/anyone (cough Mel Gibson cough) that is antisemitic.

[will641]

Thx Jack Attack

anyways, I'm not the kind of person that hears an off-color jewish joke and sits back and takes it. So, in that same sense, I'm not going to be a person who supports shows or anything/anyone (cough Mel Gibson cough) that is antisemitic.

omg, this thread is on its way to being hijacked into a race thread.

[wufwugy]

spenda you're doing it all wrong. you're supposed to be like tim watley who converted to judaism for the jokes

why do jews have big noses? air is free

[bigred]

Thx Jack Attack

anyways, I'm not the kind of person that hears an off-color jewish joke and sits back and takes it. So, in that same sense, I'm not going to be a person who supports shows or anything/anyone (cough Mel Gibson cough) that is antisemitic.

Besides man, they make fun of every religion equally. It's not like they're just going after jews. They also make fun of stereotypes to show how dumb it is when you stereotype. Take the n-word guy episode. That was great.

I think you need to ease up on this one, spenda.

Mel Gibson sucks balls though.

[JKDS]

mel gibson is the butt of soooo many south park jokes.

[drmcboy]

like bigred says you're way underestimating the depth of the show.

Married with children called women stupid man hating money spending bimbos for years, and men women hating generally disgusting creatures incapable of any complex emotion. I can start on the lesbian jokes next if you want. Also it was funny.

[bigspenda73]

Im not a woman, if I was, I probably wouldn't appreciate the show.

[bjsaust]

Also I can see Spendas point. I think its silly when one group starts hating on South Park because they happenned to be the target in one episode (like the scientoligists), but Jews do get ripped on in every single episode which is different. As someone said it fits the show because theres a Jewish kid whos friends with an asshole who picks on him all the time, but I can see how it would get old fast.

[Jack Sawyer]

sooo spensitive

boooom!

[givememyleg]

Im not a woman, if I was, I probably wouldn't appreciate the show.

so it's only wrong to discriminate what you believe?

[bigspenda73]

no, it's wrong to support shows that discriminate what you believe in

[BankItDrew]

no, it's wrong to support shows that discriminate what you believe in

no, it's wrong to support shows that are fair to everyone

[will641]

no, it's wrong to support shows that discriminate what you believe in

you call it discrimination, i call it humor.

on a side note
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNAgV...eature=related

[givememyleg]

Peter: As we all know, Christmas is that mystical time of year when the ghost of Jesus rises from the grave to feed on the flesh of the living. So we all sing Christmas carols to lull him back to sleep.
Bob: Outrageous! How dare he say such blasphemy! I've gotta do something!
Man: Bob, there's nothing you can do.
Bob: [Sighing] Well, I guess I'll just have to develop a sense of humor.

[will641]

i think gmml got you there spenda.

[bigspenda73]

You guys just have different views than me, I think most that know me would agree I have a sense of humor.

[BankItDrew]

You guys just have different views than me, I think most that know me would agree I have a sense of humor.

Unless the humor makes a joke at Judaism ?

seems absurd to me

[givememyleg]

You guys just have different views than me, I think most that know me would agree I have a sense of humor.

you make me laugh when you go on monkey tilt after i called you down with bottom pair

i miss hearing the "i mean what were you thinking??!?!" in vent

[bigspenda73]

You guys just have different views than me, I think most that know me would agree I have a sense of humor.

Unless the humor makes a joke at Judaism ?

seems absurd to me

you thinking it's absurd seems absurd to me

[BankItDrew]

what's wrong with poking fun at judaism?

[lolzzz_321]

Change location to PIZZA OVEN

[bigspenda73]

Change location to PIZZA OVEN

yea, see, people think stuff like that is cool, but if you had members of your family directly affected by the holocaust you'd probably be a bit more sympathetic.

[aka_red]

Change location to PIZZA OVEN

yea, see, people think stuff like that is cool, but if you had members of your family directly affected by the holocaust you'd probably be a bit more sympathetic.

infinite of my people were put into internment camps and had all their worldly possessions seized by the US government but I'm not crying like a bitch. Earthquakes killing millions in China, yeah its a sad story, nothing to get butt hurt over imo.

[bigspenda73]

Let's not confuse race and religion, two totally different groups.

Race isn't a choice, religion is, although this is an entirely different subject.

Also, your apathy astounds me.

[BankItDrew]

if my ps3 breaks
then someone says ps3 sucks
i still won't have sand in my vagina

[will641]

Change location to PIZZA OVEN

yea, see, people think stuff like that is cool, but if you had members of your family directly affected by the holocaust you'd probably be a bit more sympathetic.

infinite of my people were put into internment camps and had all their worldly possessions seized by the US government but I'm not crying like a bitch. Earthquakes killing millions in China, yeah its a sad story, nothing to get butt hurt over imo.

yeah but nobody died with the asians in the u.s. you cant really compare the two.

[will641]

also spenda, if triptanes had said to a black ftr poster change location to KFC, would you think its funny, or say that is not funnay.

[lolzzz_321]

also spenda, if triptanes had said to a black ftr poster change location to A PLANTATION would you think its funny, or say that is not funnay.

fyp

[bigspenda73]

I think the problem there would lie in the fact that you're trying to compare making fun of black people eating friend chicken to the attempt to exterminate a group of people because of their beliefs and backgrounds.

[lolzzz_321]

I fixed his post big guy.

[sarbox68]

Change location to PIZZA OVEN

yea, see, people think stuff like that is cool, but if you had members of your family directly affected by the holocaust you'd probably be a bit more sympathetic.

infinite of my people were put into internment camps and had all their worldly possessions seized by the US government but I'm not crying like a bitch. Earthquakes killing millions in China, yeah its a sad story, nothing to get butt hurt over imo.

yeah but nobody died with the asians in the u.s. you cant really compare the two.

Ummm...

1. Don't remember anything about genocide related to Japanese internment camps. Buy yourself a copy of "Night". Avoid retarded comparisons. Sorry... next...
2. Unless sombody found a way to blame the Jews for natural disasters as well now, random geographical acts of god just don't fall in the same category as pre-meditated mass murder.

All that aside... jew jokes can be funny. So can Sarah Silverman and cracks about Britney Spears' vagina. Preference is obv a matter of personal taste...

[lolzzz_321]

I have an autographed copy of Night, no joke!

I also like http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118799/

[sarbox68]

Have met Eli... no joke either

[will641]

im a firm believer that history shouldnt dictate our freedom of speech.

[BankItDrew]

Did you hear about the new facility Kraft Foods is building in Israel?
It’s called "Cheeses of Nazareth".

[sarbox68]

im a firm believer that history shouldnt dictate our freedom of speech.

True... but if a white dude stand in the intersection of 118th and Imperial screaming "N--ga" at the top of his lungs, he gonna get his history-ignorning ass whupped.

Freedom of speech. Dumb-ass white m-thafucka. No sympathy for the latter.....

[BankItDrew]

im a firm believer that history shouldnt dictate our freedom of speech.

True... but if a white dude stand in the intersection of 118th and Imperial screaming "N--ga" at the top of his lungs, he gonna get his history-ignorning ass whupped.

Freedom of speech. Dumb-ass white m-thafucka. No sympathy for the latter.....

I'd whoop his ass too!
And I'm white
And it would include my ignorance of any history
Bad example IMO

[will641]

im a firm believer that history shouldnt dictate our freedom of speech.

True... but if a white dude stand in the intersection of 118th and Imperial screaming "N--ga" at the top of his lungs, he gonna get his history-ignorning ass whupped.

Freedom of speech. Dumb-ass white m-thafucka. No sympathy for the latter.....

this is a really over the top example. im just saying, if i say nigger in the middle of a conversation, no matter what the context is, i will get cock-eyed looks from everyone and maybe someone might say, dude, you cant say that.

"if it were up to us which laws we choose to abide, i would kill everyone that looks at me cock-eyed" - Rex Banner

[sarbox68]

im a firm believer that history shouldnt dictate our freedom of speech.

True... but if a white dude stand in the intersection of 118th and Imperial screaming "N--ga" at the top of his lungs, he gonna get his history-ignorning ass whupped.

Freedom of speech. Dumb-ass white m-thafucka. No sympathy for the latter.....

this is a really over the top example. im just saying, if i say nigger in the middle of a conversation, no matter what the context is, i will get cock-eyed looks from everyone and maybe someone might say, dude, you cant say that.

Last time I checked, ODB's hood pass was still in effect... so you'd likely be okay.....

[aka_red]

Also, your apathy astounds me.

Your state of astonishment astounds me.

Also, These things that nobody has control over. Who cares, you had nothing to do with it. It was not your fault. You did not cause it. Thus, the ONLY affiliation you have with the holocaust happened to your ancestors/relatives. This is not going to happen again. So, I just see you having a legitimate emotional attachment to this to be illogical.

[lolzzz_321]

It is obvious that bigspenda73 is sensitive about the subject, which isn't wrong. If you guys are trying to convince him to stop being sensitive then that is fatuous and a waste of time.

I am sure bigspenda73 doesn't think about the holocaust all day, but he gets offended when people make light of his situation. I personally cannot empathize, because no one for generations in my family has been persecuted for their religious beliefs. Maybe my great great great great great great great great great great great grandpa was some raptor jesus apostle, but I can't identify, too many eons have passed.

Moving on is sad on one hand, but at least most of humanity can do it. I'm sure bigspenda73 is not out to get some Germans. I'm not out to get muslims for September 11 or the crusades. Most black people I know aren't out to get revenge on some distant relatives of their slave owners... They have moved on...

I guess some people haven't though. The whole middle east thing is a good example, right? To be honest, I kind of envy their unbending dedication to their respective casues.

[Jack Sawyer]

wow what happened to this thread

[a500lbgorilla]

Change location to PIZZA OVEN

yea, see, people think stuff like that is cool, but if you had members of your family directly affected by the holocaust you'd probably be a bit more sympathetic.

I find some things about the shooting at VT funny and other things, I don't. So I half slightly agree and half disagree.

I saw a picture of some kid carrying like 8 guns captioned "heading to school." I thought it was kinda lame but an attempted commentary. But I also remember someone making the joke, "I've had professors walk into my classroom with worse intentions than Cho (the shooter)." And that shit is funny.

[Reidak]

Humous is just another form of communication. Anyone with a sense of humour can differentiate humour from festicious talk or hate speak.

Its no different than sarcasm, or over exaggeration, humour just happens to evoke a laughing response about a situation.

[Da GOAT]

hmm i like it but ive prob not seen an episode in 3+ years. if its on i may watch it.

[will641]

wow what happened to this thread

apparently discusssoin threads on ftr are out of the question. i would be interested to see if we had a poll on best nickelodeon how long it would be before someone started talking about the turkish slaughters.

[IowaSkinsFan]

South Park is an incredible show, but season 12 has been absolutely horrible albeit one show that was just decent. Spenda, I think the original concept of Cartman's anti semitism was that of a stupid 3rd grade childish humor reflecting Trey Parker's immature rips of Matt Stone. Being a Jew myself I don't find it offensive at all because everyone knows Cartman is a retard and he's the main anti-semite.

It actually kind of amazes me someone would complain this hard about sp's jewish stereotyping since I dont think I've ever heard anyone say a word about it.

Do I think your stupid? No, you have your own opinion I'm not much of a Jew anyways so maybe I just don't find that stuff offensive.

[mcatdog]

It is obvious that bigspenda73 is sensitive about the subject, which isn't wrong. If you guys are trying to convince him to stop being sensitive then that is fatuous and a waste of time.

I am sure bigspenda73 doesn't think about the holocaust all day, but he gets offended when people make light of his situation. I personally cannot empathize, because no one for generations in my family has been persecuted for their religious beliefs. Maybe my great great great great great great great great great great great grandpa was some raptor jesus apostle, but I can't identify, too many eons have passed.

Moving on is sad on one hand, but at least most of humanity can do it. I'm sure bigspenda73 is not out to get some Germans. I'm not out to get muslims for September 11 or the crusades. Most black people I know aren't out to get revenge on some distant relatives of their slave owners... They have moved on...

I guess some people haven't though. The whole middle east thing is a good example, right? To be honest, I kind of envy their unbending dedication to their respective casues.

I don't envy them, life is too short to carry grudges around. Good post though.

[a500lbgorilla]

hmm i like it but ive prob not seen an episode in 3+ years. if its on i may watch it.

http://www.southparkstudios.com/

Trey and Matt are also two people who don't mind people watching their show for free. They're just glad people will watch their stuff.

[wesrman]

Title of this thread should be

WTF is wrong with Spenda???

[sarbox68]

Humous is just another form of communication. Anyone with a sense of humour can differentiate humour from festicious talk or hate speak.

Its no different than sarcasm, or over exaggeration, humour just happens to evoke a laughing response about a situation.

My fave was Isaac Hayes getting all po'd and basically stalking off the show 'cause of the Tom Cruise / Scientology spot (which was freakin' hilarious...) Apparently Shaft was only cool when the jokes was about everybody else's sh!t.... which tends to be the case with most things like this...

[JinxT4]

no, not a big fan of Borat either, saw the movie blown out of my mind and I still didn't find it that funny

I thought Borat was awful (couldn't even finish the movie).

[will641]

no, not a big fan of Borat either, saw the movie blown out of my mind and I still didn't find it that funny

I thought Borat was awful (couldn't even finish the movie).

the ali g show was funny before everyone found out about it and started saying, i liiiiiiiiiiiiike.

[triumphant cracker]

if my ps3 breaks
then someone says ps3 sucks
i still won't have sand in my vagina

no, you have it all wrong....

you suck. not the playstation 3....
and do bots really have vags?

[BankItDrew]

if my ps3 breaks
then someone says ps3 sucks
i still won't have sand in my vagina

no, you have it all wrong....

you suck. not the playstation 3....
and do bots really have vags?

it was just an analogy

[givememyleg]

borat was okay i guess

his internet skits are more funny than the movie

[Hawk]

I think that spenda is just annoyed because sp told us all about the jew gold he carries with him.