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    Default Starfleet Selections: NFL Week 8

    Record Update:

    YTD: 46-44-2
    Units won: 73.76

    Monday's Record: 1-0
    Units won: 1.1

    YTD Record Broken Down:
    -201 or worse: 0-0
    -125 or -200: 0-0
    -111 to -125: 3-5-1
    -101 to -110: 20-20-2
    +100 to +110: 12-8
    +111 to +125: 1-3
    +125 to +185: 6-3
    +186 to +300: 5-3
    +300 onwards: 1-0

    1 unit plays: 16-15-1
    2 unit plays: 18-16-2
    3 unit plays: 1-3
    4 unit plays: 4-4
    6 unit plays: 4-1
    8 unit plays: 2-2
    9 unit plays: 1-0
    10 unit plays: 0-1
    12 unit plays: 1-0
    16 unit plays: 1-0

    Notes:
    2 middle attempts, failed: scalped for a total gain of +.4 units.
    2 scalps, scalped for a total gain of +.2 units.

    ~~~

    Browsing over next week's card, there aren't a whole lot of games that jump out at me.

    I do see one that I'd like to take a position on, though.

    NO -1.5 vs. BAL (-110)
    10 units at Skybook

    I'll probably end up buying part of this back later, as I'm not really confident enough to stick this many units on it.

    However, I think that the line will move in my favor at least a little bit, and I'll be able to buy back some. Heck, I can get BAL +1.5 (+109) at Pinnacle right now if I really wanted to buy this back.

    Colts game looks interesting, but I'm afraid the line is set to attract IND money, so I'm holding off for now. Injuries to Indy's defense worry me, and well...it is still mile high stadium. We'll see where the public is at on this game.

    Oh: and the Texans won...by A LOT. I am very happy.

    {edited because I'm a moron and put my odds at +110 when they were supposed to be -110}
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    Damn. Looks like it's going to be a bit harder to buy back that bet than I thought. Whoops...

    But here's my next bet for the week

    SEA +6.5 (-110)
    12 units at Skybook

    This line can also currently be found at Bodog.

    The chiefs backup QB (who's starting currently) got injured this week in practice. Wow.

    That means they're down to their third string man (or at least that it is more likely than not). Look in the preseason for what he can do. I mean, just wow.

    This line is sure to drop. The public was already all over KC, leading me to lean towards SEA. Now? I like this bet.

    This information has also inspired me to put in the following bet:

    Parlay: SEA Moneyline, SEA Under 38.5 (+563.8)
    5 units at BetTrojan

    So...I may have gone a little overboard here. That should probably really be more of a 2 units bet, but uh...what's done is done. GO SEAHAWKS!
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    Wow, you're really pushing hard on Seattle. You got a really favorable line, though. Every trend I have looked at this week has said to go with KC, and with Alexander and Hasselbeck both out, I don't like Seattle at all. Plus, you gotta factor in that Seattle is a horrible road team (S. Wallace makes his first road start this week), and KC just beat one of the better teams in the league (SD) at home... meaning Arrowhead is a really tough place to play.

    How come you took Seattle?
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    Gosh darn it.

    I'm really paying for taking that position on NO. I'm probably going to have to pay a unit to try to get out of it, but uh...yeah.

    And Kling:

    WAAAY too many people are on KC for my taste. KC is still without its monster line from years before. Remember: last week they were 6 point UNDERDOGS? SEA is not that big of a step down from SD.

    And an injured 2nd string QB may be just as dangerous as a healthy 3rd string QB. Everyone's forgetting about Seattle's defense. They're not pushovers.

    Getting 6.5 in a game I think should be pk? I'll take that. I'll also take the moneyline at plus money.
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    For this week, I have a few bets I have yet to place, but that I will be waiting for the best line or price on tomorrow:

    HOU moneyline (+143 or best price tomorrow)
    2 units (best line price currently at Pinnacle)

    Texans are better than the Titans. There aren't that many teams you can just flat out say that about, but it is true of the Titans.

    Vince Young's best career passing day was still sub 175 yards (and that was in his one victory). Now, the Texans defense IS in shambles, but I think that they can at least contain the TEN offense.

    Meanwhile, the running game is FINALLY showing signs of life for the Texans. And the passing game? Well, that's been the bright point of the season so far.

    I'd make this a bigger play, but I don't want to force anything. Plus, it seems that anytime I play any aspect of a Texans game, I lose. I am 0-5 in bets concerning games that the Texans are in. Let's hope that changes this week.

    DEN -2.5 or -3 (we'll see where the line is at tomorrow)
    12 units at well...wherever I can get

    Ok: this line was set to attract Indy money. No doubt about it. Almost 70% of the public are on Indy. The line opened at -2 or -2.5, Denver, depending on where you got it. A whole lot of action was taken on Indy...and the line moves...UP?!?! WAH? Almost everywhere you look now, the Denver line is at -3. WTF?

    So, let's take a closer look at this game. Indy destroyed a Washington team last week that well...has been subpar at best. They've won lots of their games, but not by the same awe-inspiring amounts that they did last year. They've been trying to break in their rookie RB to get him to carry the load more, and in doing so, have a really wierd stat: in games where they rushed the ball more, they always just barely win, which would seem to be counterintuitive, but yeah.

    Meanwhile, Denver's team has also not lived up to billed expectations. Well, at least one half hasn't: the offense has failed to generate points in teh quantities it used to. It can't be a coincidence that this coincides with Gary Kubiak's departure to become head coach of the Houston Texans.

    Their defense, though: damn.

    Plus, you can't forget this is being played at Mile High, where Home Field is DEFINITELY an advantage. Peyton, despite his heroics last week, can't have been 100% this week at practice after that hit he took. I think people are overlooking that a bit.

    You can live off the adrenaline for the rest of hte game, but later that week...owch.

    Evenly matched teams, and I'm taking the home team. I'll be in the trenches with the books again this week, opposite main public action.

    DAL +6 (or best line/price)
    6 units, best line at Bodog

    If you watched last week's MNF game, that game really wasn't as much of a blowout as everyone is making it out to be. Yes: the Dallas Cowboys offensive line blows. Yes: the Carolina Panthers defensive line is awesome.

    But...the DAL o-line has kept their QB upright before, and they're all professionals: they should be able to do their part this week. And you KNOW that they've been focusing on pass protection this week in Dallas practices.

    WAAAAAY too many people are on the Panthers. Almost 70%, in a primetime game. The Panthers, everybody's media darling, haven't exactly been killing all the teams they've won against, and they're not invinceable. I think 6 points is too many for them to lay here. The original line of -3 would have been about right; heck...-2.5 probably would have been about right.

    But hey... what do I know? Well...not much. haha . But I know that the books have left the line at 5 all week after resetting it after the MNF game. Bodog's line is at 6 only because they 'shade' the lines towards favorites. I'll take 6 points in what I think is a matchup of evenly matched teams.

    Only things that concern me in this one are that I don't know how Dallas is going to come out with Romo under center. Otherwise, this would be a bigger play. As it is, I may up it to an 8 unit play later, but we'll see.

    I'll be waiting probably until less than half an hour before kickoff to place this bet, as a lot of public money will be coming in late.

    ARI +4.5 vs. GB (-110 or best price)
    2 units, probably at Skybook

    Yes: I know this is the same Arizona team that lost to Oakland. Yes. I know this team is reeling from back to back to back losses. Yes: I know they can't run the ball worth shit.

    But...THEY'RE PLAYING GB!!! This is a matchup of two teams that are evenly matched. Neither really has a knockout punch that should put one clearly over the other, especially to the point where one (*cough GB) would have to win pretty much by a TD to cover.

    Plus, the public is super-infatuated with fading the Cardinals after their three straight big losses. Ditto with loving the Packers after the Packers destroyed Miami (like the public had hoped)

    OAK +10 (-115 currently at Bodog)
    2 units, best price currently at Bodog

    I should have nabbed this at +10.5 at skybook with my free half point when I could have.

    A hurt Big Ben playing will hurt the Steelers more than starting a healthy Charlie Batch, but it doesn't seem like the Steelers are thinking straight. Plus, 10 points?! WTF?!?!

    And the ten points are still not keeping the public from hitting up the Steelers at pretty much a 2:1 clip (66+% of the public is on Pittsburgh)

    If Oakland scores first, then that means that Pittsburgh will have to score 17 straight just to tie. And this opening scenario could conceivably happen...what...at least 1/3, 1/4 of the time.

    If not, well, Pittsburgh's offense isn't exactly the stuff of legends this year. I don't seem them winning by 11+ (which is really like 13+ beacuse 11 and 12 don't come around that often) more than half the time in this game.


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    I REEEALY want to take NYJ vs. CLE, with Cleveland's offensive coordinator leaving the team this week. Teams that fire coaches out of desperation are not usually teams to play on. But wha? 70+% of the pubic is on NYJ? Aww...dammit. I may have to change my play to CLE...or just lay off.
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    Ok:

    So I've decided on how to get myself out of that bet. I took a position on it, thinking I could scalp it out for half a unit or so and maybe satisfy some rollover for bonuses, but well...whoops.

    I have taken the following bet in order to reduce my risk on BAL/NO game:

    BAL +2 (+100)
    10.5 units risked to win 10.5 units

    So...pretty much whatever happens tomorrow in that game, I lose .5 units.

    UNLESS...by some miracle, NO wins by 2. In which case, I will win my NO -1.5 bet and push my BAL +2 bet. Hah...doubtful.

    But uh yeah.
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    Default Recap for the early games

    I've decided to lay off the Texans/Titans game. In addition, I have placed one bet, seeing as I don't see how the line's going to get that much better by morning:

    ARI +4.5 (-110)
    4 units at Skybook



    So, that means that I have the following games up for the first round of games:

    SEA +6.5 (-110) - 12 units
    Parlay: SEA M/L / UNDER 38.5 (+563.8) - 5 units

    ARI +4.5 (-110) - 4 units

    Will post more as I get my final bets in, but these are the only bets I have officially placed so far. For the others, I will be waiting to pounce on the best number.
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    One more for the early games:

    Wind is blowing like a MFer out there in New York. 25mph gusts = no passing or kicking = low scoring?

    Well, I took this line while I could get it. Lots of 37's out there now. At Matchbook, if you look under their alternate lines, you can still find this.

    Pop it for $100 at a time. For some reason (I think it's a program), it keeps replenishing the line afterwards.

    NYG/TB UNDER 38.5 (-119.4)
    6 units at Matchbook
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    For the afternoon games, I have the following bets placed:

    DEN -2.5 (-105)
    16 units at Bodog

    Reasoning above

    OAK +10 (-105)
    2 units at Bodog

    Reasoning above.
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    Well, so far, today has kinda sucked. Lost the SEA bet by a stinking half point...althouhg I guess it really shouldn' thave been that close, so I can't complain THAT much.

    Indianapolis rips my heart out while simultaneously doing it to the DEN defense.

    On the plus side, I was able to successfully get out of my NO -1.5, chaning my loss from 11 units to .5 units. So yay?

    And I managed to stay away from the Jets line, even though I really liked the Jets there.

    Got one more play. (Must not chase, must not chase

    DAL. My +6 is gone (DAMMIT), but uh...I guess +4.5 will have to do.

    I also have a play on the Moneyline

    DAL M/L (+196)
    5 units at Matchbook

    DAL +3 (-116) 1st half
    2 units at Pinnacle

    DAL +4.5 (-113)
    4 units at Pinnacle

    Allrighty. That'll do it for Sunday.

    No matter what happens tonight, I end up in the red, so booh to that, but...we live to fight another day.
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    So, for the day's recap:

    SEA +6.5 - Lost by a half point. I could have handled a TD (which Damn...come on Seattle. Why do you give up a TD), but then they get an extra point on top of that. F*** me.

    SEA M/L / Under 38.5 - this bet never stood a chance. Whoops.

    ARI +4.5 @ GB - Wow. Got owned. Guess fading the public was a bad idea here.

    NYG/TB Under was a goldmine. I shoulda hit it harder, but well...that was one of my few shows of discipline today. Woohoo! I think 6 units was the right amount here.

    OAK +10 - Yay fading the public here. Never in doubt. Oakland did indeed score first, and Pittsburgh never came back from that.

    Denver...dammit... Freaking Peyton Manning destroyed me today. Last drive of the game too. Shame...

    Dallas did good. Thank you for sucking, Caroilna, 'cause Dallas did as much to win that game as you did to lose it.


    4-5 on the day, with my big plays ending up killing me instead of helping me.

    Tomorrow, I will be looking to play on the Vikings, and will be waiting to get the best line.

    THis time, I'll wait a little longer; it hurt me to see all the 4.5's and 5's go up with like 5 minutes 'till kickoff when I'd just paid extra juice to get to the +4.5 today. Ditto on the odds for DAL moneyline.
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    Rough day for me too. Why do you like the Vikings tomorrow night? I'm leaning toward the Pats.
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    I'll probably continue to play the overs as I think choosing who is going to win tomorrow between Patriots and Vikings is going to be too hard. I don't think the Vikings are that good though to beat the Pats, but whether they could with the spread is another story.

    I also like the overs because they are the easiest to middle/hedge at halftime


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    Record Update:

    YTD: 50-49-2
    Units won: 51.56

    Sunday's Record: 4-5
    Units won: -22.18

    YTD Record Broken Down:
    -201 or worse: 0-0
    -125 or -200: 0-0
    -111 to -125: 5-6-1
    -101 to -110: 21-23-2
    +100 to +110: 12-8
    +111 to +125: 1-3
    +125 to +185: 6-3
    +186 to +300: 6-3
    +300 onwards: 1-1

    1 unit plays: 16-15-1
    2 unit plays: 19-17-2
    3 unit plays: 1-3
    4 unit plays: 6-5
    5 unit plays: 0-1
    6 unit plays: 5-1
    8 unit plays: 2-2
    9 unit plays: 1-0
    10 unit plays: 0-1
    12 unit plays: 1-1
    16 unit plays: 1-1

    Notes:
    2 middle attempts, failed: scalped for a total gain of +.4 units.
    2 scalps, scalped for a total gain of +.2 units.
    1 loss eaten to get out of a bet, -.5 units
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    Bets for MNF:

    Minnesota M/L (+113.68)
    8 units at Matchbook

    Parlay: Minnesota M/L , Under 39.5 (+276)
    6 units at Pinnacle

    MIN/NE Under 39.5 (-108.12)
    4 units at Matchbook

    That'll do it.

    Public is all over NE, leading me to bet Minnesota. These two teams have the same record, so I'll take the home dog on Monday night. And I doubt that Minnesota wins in a shootout, so that leads me towards the under.

    These are two pretty good defensive teams. Shame I missed the under 40 a little bit ago.
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    Record Update:

    YTD: 51-51-2
    Units won: 41.26

    YTD Record Broken Down:
    -201 or worse: 0-0
    -125 or -200: 0-0
    -111 to -125: 5-6-1
    -101 to -110: 22-23-2
    +100 to +110: 12-9
    +111 to +125: 1-3
    +125 to +185: 6-3
    +186 to +300: 6-4
    +300 onwards: 1-1

    1 unit plays: 16-15-1
    2 unit plays: 19-17-2
    3 unit plays: 1-3
    4 unit plays: 7-5
    5 unit plays: 0-1
    6 unit plays: 5-2
    8 unit plays: 2-3
    9 unit plays: 1-0
    10 unit plays: 0-1
    12 unit plays: 1-1
    16 unit plays: 1-1

    Notes:
    2 middle attempts, failed: scalped for a total gain of +.4 units.
    2 scalps, scalped for a total gain of +.2 units.
    1 loss eaten to get out of a bet, -.5 units

    ~~~
    This are the results following week 8.

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