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					  Originally Posted by  azureXsmurF
					
				 
				
	
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by  bigred
					
				 
				
	
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by  pgil
					
				 
				you arent dead until your brain dies.  death = brain death.  if you dont have a working brain, you cant and wont live.  if you dont have a brain at all, we have no qualms about killing you, just look at vegetables.  if you are a bunch of cells without a brain you can be killed without ethical problems.  unless you are a pythagorean or a vegan.  but then you have bigger problems.  its all about the brain people.  how you argue against a brain based view of humanity i dont know, but would like to see. 
			
		 
	 
 I bet if I ripped your heart out you'd be dead.  
			
		 
	 
 You die when your heart is ripped out because blood stops flowing to your brain... so you're still technically not dead until your brain dies. =]  
			
		 
	 
 Not everybody who has a heart transplant dies... and theretically it should be possible to replace someones heart with a mechanical pump permently and they would be alive.  If you replaced their brain with a pentium 6 then they would not be alive.
					 
				 
				
			 
			 
		  
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