Thoughts on Feminists

[Renton]

Economics isn't the end-all-be-all; there are a plethora of things we consider horrible that can be considered pretty great economically.

Like what?

Sure I can. Just like how if there was any gathering of statistics on the matter, you could find that those with Asian employees make more money. The more myopic the criteria, the more statistics can back anything.

Oh that is the direction you were going. I don't see how the fact that Asians are higher than average productivity workers and blacks are lower than average, both due to large class and education differences, relates to discrimination in the work place. Of course an IT firm is going to hire more Asians than Blacks, more Asians than Blacks have degrees in IT. There is absolutely zero economic incentive to discriminate against a race for a job. To do so cedes a clear advantage to non-discriminatory competitors. And this is all completely unrelated to the logical reasons why a firm might pay a woman less than an equally qualified man.

Probably not, but that also means you can't have your cake and eat it too by dispersing a societal burden across the society. Babies need to be made and somebody needs to take leave; if men don't wanna play an equal part in that it then becomes an inequality. Men don't have to take paternity leave, but they can't have it both ways by then also punishing women for playing the necessary role, socially and economically.

Women taking maternity leave do so because they want to. They aren't being punished for playing the role. The only people punished are the women who choose not to have children. But that doesn't change the fact that they are in a risky demographic, just like the single young male driver example.

I don't understand the sentence about not being able to disperse the societal burden across society. Isn't that what you want? For employers to pay women the same as men in spite of physical differences, and thus disperse the burden across society in the form of higher prices of goods and services in the name of countering discrimination?

It is wrong for the burden of childcare to be disproportionately placed on one gender.

Yeah, that's why we've already passed laws forcing men to take the lion's share of said burden.