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    Default Thoughts on Week 11

    Week 11 looks fairly bare except for two games that I like:

    Colts/Bengals
    Colts -5
    OVER 48

    I'm liking the over here with two high powered offenses going at it. 48 actually seems like a fairly low number, considering that 49 is 7 touchdowns. I can see the Colts scoring on that Bengals defense at least 4, if not 5 times, and I see the Bengals attempting to return the favor. That being said, I'm not the best judge of over/under's (I'm 1-2), so yeah.

    I like the colts at -5...all the way up to -6.5. I'll see if I sell some points over at sportingbet when they finally release their lines.

    Seahawks/49ers
    Seahawks -11.5

    This has the Seattle/Houston game repeat written ALL over it. I don't know how a team without a quarterback is going to be able to beat the Seattle defense and Alexander should be able to run all over the 49ers.

    My record so far with spreads this year is 7-3, so take this advice as you will.
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    Niners have a pretty solid Run D... but Alexander is good.
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    I'm starting to like Sea more and more. SF only scored 9 points last week because of turnovers. Sea takes care of the ball really well. The only games that the niners have keep close recently are when the other team gives them the ball .
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    Quote Originally Posted by ensign_lee
    I like the colts at -5...all the way up to -6.5.
    Me too.


    Quote Originally Posted by ensign_lee
    This has the Seattle/Houston game repeat written ALL over it.
    I agree, the 49rs are terrible on offense this year, I can't see them scoring much against the Seahawks.
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    I like Indy -5 also, as well as Seattle -12. I've had bets on Seattle the last 4 weeks and they've covered the last 3. I also like Car -2.5. Car has covered their last 5 games. since week 4 i've been +Ev at 29-15-3 ATS but i can't pick a play of the week for shit (4-6).
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    Pound the Indy game!! that line is gold... Cinci is so overated. Cant stop the rush. cant beat a team with a winning record. Sometimes they even struggle to beat up on these teams with losing records. Only thing i would watch out for is the weather. its been raining like crazy here in Cinci and if it gets nasty on sunday the over could be in trouble. but even with poor weather indy will probably just pound it with Edge and cover easily.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grand_MasterB
    Pound the Indy game!! that line is gold... Cinci is so overated. Cant stop the rush. cant beat a team with a winning record. Sometimes they even struggle to beat up on these teams with losing records. Only thing i would watch out for is the weather. its been raining like crazy here in Cinci and if it gets nasty on sunday the over could be in trouble. but even with poor weather indy will probably just pound it with Edge and cover easily.
    Indy was -3 vs the Pats, who are much much worse than the Bungles. Everyone is riding the Indy train I find it hard to believe there is much value in betting with them.

    I mean, Vegas can't STILL be underrating them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by doggz
    Quote Originally Posted by Grand_MasterB
    Pound the Indy game!! that line is gold... Cinci is so overated. Cant stop the rush. cant beat a team with a winning record. Sometimes they even struggle to beat up on these teams with losing records. Only thing i would watch out for is the weather. its been raining like crazy here in Cinci and if it gets nasty on sunday the over could be in trouble. but even with poor weather indy will probably just pound it with Edge and cover easily.
    Indy was -3 vs the Pats, who are much much worse than the Bungles. Everyone is riding the Indy train I find it hard to believe there is much value in betting with them.

    I mean, Vegas can't STILL be underrating them?
    They can when they keep expecting that "magical" game when the Colts finally lose. That game isnt going to be until the Colts put in their backups. Honestly, I don't see how the Bengals can stand toe to toe with the Colts. If the Bengals offense works, then Indy's offense will outscore them. If, by some miracle, the Bengals defense works (how? I dunno), then the Colts should still be able to bottle up Palmer and Johnson.

    Colts by a touchdown is what I'm seeing here.
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    If you can find any place that still offers it, I REALLY like Panthers -2.5 at odds of (-110). I wouldn't buy the hook from any books that already have it at -3, because that will bring the jucie to (-130).

    Panthers should be able to simply outmuscle the bears.
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    Jones is coming back for the bears this week. That will help their deplorable offense some. But carolina is tops in the NFL against the rush. I still like the Panthers here and have already bet on it myself.. Just tossing some info out there for you guys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grand_MasterB
    Jones is coming back for the bears this week. That will help their deplorable offense some. But carolina is tops in the NFL against the rush. I still like the Panthers here and have already bet on it myself.. Just tossing some info out there for you guys.
    I'm waiting for the line to move, I love the Bears around +4
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    OK y'all. Here's my final card, with reasons for why I like the games.

    Allright, boys. Here we go again. At first glance, this card didn't look too pretty, but a close look at the two big favorites show why exactly they are such huge favorites. I'm going to try to take both of them.

    Seattle -11.5 (-107) 3 units
    Hopefully, I can get somebody to take the other side on this bet. Otherwise, I guess I'll just go to Cascade and take -110 if it's still offered there come Sunday morning.

    The 49er's have no quarterback and their running game is not the most impressive one in the NFL. The Seattle defense should come close to shutting them out; at worst, they give up 10 points, I think.

    Meanwhile, the Seahawks offense is #1 in the NFL and Shaun Alexander should be able to run all over the 49'ers defense. The Bears' third string running back ran for 100+ yards; why should Shaun Alexander not be able to do the same, plus some yards and some touchdowns. And Matt Hassleback should be able to air it out as a change of pace; if he can avoid turning it over like he did against the Rams defense, the Seahawks should roll in this one.

    The rogue factor is the home field advantage that the 49ers have. Remember: they beat the Bucs here in a low scoring game earlier. The Seahawks are going to need to score and score quickly in order to help keep the crowd a non-factor.

    Denver -13 (-102) 3 units
    This is another bet where I haven't yet found someone to take the other side. If worst comes to worst, I'll bit the bullet and just take the odds from a sportsbook, probably from sportingbet.com where -13 is offered at -105.
    The Jets offense is another offense that just should not be able to get it going vs. an improving Denver defense AT HOME. I honestly don't see the Jets being able to score more than 6 points unless Jake throws an interception for a touchdown or gives the ball to the Jets deep in Denver territory.

    The rogue factor here will be the Jets defense. They're getting healthier and right now are in the top third of the league. Last week, they limited the Panthers passing attack, picking off Delhomme twice and keep Steve Smith in check. Heck, Davis rushed for les than 100 yards. If they can make Plummer make mistakes, they might have a chance to cover the spread here.

    However, if the Jets defense has a weakness, it is the run. They are ranked near the bottom third of the league here. At the same time, as everyone knows, the Broncos just love to run the ball right down their opponent's throats. If Jake Plummer only has to throw 1 pass for every 5-8 runs, that will make both the Broncos and me very happy, because that means that the Jets defense has failed miserably at containing the Denver running game and that Plummer won't get the chance to throw the game away. The mile high altitude might help the Broncos in this respect; come the fourth quarter, the Jets defense should be getting tired after having been on the field most of the game.

    Carolina -2.5 (-105) 3 units
    I love matchbook. Where no books are offering -2.5 without added juice, I was able to find someone willing to take the other side of this over on matchbook.

    To be brutally honest, this game will come down to the running backs. With the city of Chicago being well...Chicago, there won't be too much passing in this game, I believe. The panthers have the edge here as Stephen Davis and his offensive line should hopefully be able to just push their way to the other side of the field. Also, Thomas Jones is still somewhat injured, so he's not up to full speed, which is great for Carolina's #2 ranked running defense.

    As far as the passing game goes, the panthers are going to need to try Orton into throwing a game changing interception. They did it well against Bollinger of the Jets, so hopefully they'll be able to do it against Orton. Hopefully, Delhomme has learned from his mistakes last week against the Jets defense and will be ready to play on Sunday. To be honest, I'm kind of scared that the Bears defense will be able to phase Delhomme, but hopefully this is just me being paranoid. One of these quarterbacks is probably going to lose the game for his team; my money, as far as that is concerned, is on Orton to throw the game away.

    Both defenses have done well. That being said, both Carolina and Chicago have had easy schedules so far. This will definitely be a game to watch. Carolina, after its bye, has done very well, blowing out all three opponents. Chicago, on the other hand, has played in somewhat close games against the bottom half of the league. That may have padded their stats at least somewhat.

    These two teams play a very similar style of football. The thing is that Carolina has been doing it longer, so I definitely give the edge to Carolina. Hopefully, they win.

    ---
    Those three games are my strong plays for the week. I’m really more of a better that deals with spreads rather than a better that deals with totals.

    That being said, this is my only play as far as totals are concerned for this week:

    Colts/Bengals OVER 48 (+129) 1 unit
    Did I mention I love matchbook? It is wonderful what a little scalping can do to get you better odds. All you have to do is put out the traps and hope people come and bite.

    The Colts offense is very, very good. They should be able to do just about anything they want to this Bengals defense, especially when running the ball. This has been the Bengals’ defense’s weakness all year and that’s not going to change with Edgerrin James running right at them. The Bengals offense is also very solid and they might (MIGHT) be able to match the Colts score for score, turning this game into an old fashioned shootout.

    There’s three things that might foul this prediction up. 1) If the Colts are able to consistently get 3-5 yards a carry on the ground vs. the Bengals, they may not be inclined to light it up in the sky. They’ll take the points that the Bengals give them while taking loads of time off the clock. This would be bad for the over. 2) There is a chance of rain on Sunday. If it rains, that will mess with the over. 3) If the Bengals get behind early, they will, no doubt, go into “passing mode”, which the Colts defense is designed to stop. The second Indy goes up by 14 the game will be done. The Bengals won’t be able to score many more points in catch-up passing mode and the Colts will probably be content to let Edge eat up yardage all day.

    I was going to take the colts all the way up to -6.5, but at a sportsbetting forum that I’m a member of, lots of people are taking the Bengals, which scares me.. It seems as though a lot of people are on the Bengals side of the spread, and I think it’s normally going to be a losing proposition to bet against lots of the RX regulars. I might try putting 1 unit on them later if the odds are just too good to pass up. Otherwise, they’re in my fun parlay, so there.

    My fun play: I decided to try a parlay this week for fun. 1.5 unit to win 21 units (20 units profit) at sportingbet.com

    Carolina -2.5
    Denver -12.5
    Seattle -12
    Indianapolis -6.5

    I'm also taking a 6 point teaser in order to try and experiment with teasers. The teaser consists of:

    Dallas -1.5
    NY Giants -1.5
    Seattle -6
    Denver -6.5

    Pays +300.

    Laying 8/5's of a unit to hopefully profit 16/5's. Let's see if I like teasers or not. :P

    Please let me know what y’all think.
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    I have basically the same game plays as you do this week. No take on the colts/bengals totals, though. either way, the constant i'm seein is Edge has a big game but i'm more comfortable ATS than w/ totals. i had a buddy hit a 5 pick parlay 2 weeks ago who also had all those plays SU. parlays are fun as hell when they hit. we'll see what happens this weekend, hopefully nothin too crazy. Good luck to us all...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ensign_lee
    OK y'all. Here's my final card, with reasons for why I like the games.

    Allright, boys. Here we go again. At first glance, this card didn't look too pretty, but a close look at the two big favorites show why exactly they are such huge favorites. I'm going to try to take both of them.

    Seattle -11.5 (-107) 3 units
    Hopefully, I can get somebody to take the other side on this bet. Otherwise, I guess I'll just go to Cascade and take -110 if it's still offered there come Sunday morning.

    The 49er's have no quarterback and their running game is not the most impressive one in the NFL. The Seattle defense should come close to shutting them out; at worst, they give up 10 points, I think.

    Meanwhile, the Seahawks offense is #1 in the NFL and Shaun Alexander should be able to run all over the 49'ers defense. The Bears' third string running back ran for 100+ yards; why should Shaun Alexander not be able to do the same, plus some yards and some touchdowns. And Matt Hassleback should be able to air it out as a change of pace; if he can avoid turning it over like he did against the Rams defense, the Seahawks should roll in this one.

    The rogue factor is the home field advantage that the 49ers have. Remember: they beat the Bucs here in a low scoring game earlier. The Seahawks are going to need to score and score quickly in order to help keep the crowd a non-factor.

    Denver -13 (-102) 3 units
    This is another bet where I haven't yet found someone to take the other side. If worst comes to worst, I'll bit the bullet and just take the odds from a sportsbook, probably from sportingbet.com where -13 is offered at -105.
    The Jets offense is another offense that just should not be able to get it going vs. an improving Denver defense AT HOME. I honestly don't see the Jets being able to score more than 6 points unless Jake throws an interception for a touchdown or gives the ball to the Jets deep in Denver territory.

    The rogue factor here will be the Jets defense. They're getting healthier and right now are in the top third of the league. Last week, they limited the Panthers passing attack, picking off Delhomme twice and keep Steve Smith in check. Heck, Davis rushed for les than 100 yards. If they can make Plummer make mistakes, they might have a chance to cover the spread here.

    However, if the Jets defense has a weakness, it is the run. They are ranked near the bottom third of the league here. At the same time, as everyone knows, the Broncos just love to run the ball right down their opponent's throats. If Jake Plummer only has to throw 1 pass for every 5-8 runs, that will make both the Broncos and me very happy, because that means that the Jets defense has failed miserably at containing the Denver running game and that Plummer won't get the chance to throw the game away. The mile high altitude might help the Broncos in this respect; come the fourth quarter, the Jets defense should be getting tired after having been on the field most of the game.

    Carolina -2.5 (-105) 3 units
    I love matchbook. Where no books are offering -2.5 without added juice, I was able to find someone willing to take the other side of this over on matchbook.

    To be brutally honest, this game will come down to the running backs. With the city of Chicago being well...Chicago, there won't be too much passing in this game, I believe. The panthers have the edge here as Stephen Davis and his offensive line should hopefully be able to just push their way to the other side of the field. Also, Thomas Jones is still somewhat injured, so he's not up to full speed, which is great for Carolina's #2 ranked running defense.

    As far as the passing game goes, the panthers are going to need to try Orton into throwing a game changing interception. They did it well against Bollinger of the Jets, so hopefully they'll be able to do it against Orton. Hopefully, Delhomme has learned from his mistakes last week against the Jets defense and will be ready to play on Sunday. To be honest, I'm kind of scared that the Bears defense will be able to phase Delhomme, but hopefully this is just me being paranoid. One of these quarterbacks is probably going to lose the game for his team; my money, as far as that is concerned, is on Orton to throw the game away.

    Both defenses have done well. That being said, both Carolina and Chicago have had easy schedules so far. This will definitely be a game to watch. Carolina, after its bye, has done very well, blowing out all three opponents. Chicago, on the other hand, has played in somewhat close games against the bottom half of the league. That may have padded their stats at least somewhat.

    These two teams play a very similar style of football. The thing is that Carolina has been doing it longer, so I definitely give the edge to Carolina. Hopefully, they win.

    ---
    Those three games are my strong plays for the week. I’m really more of a better that deals with spreads rather than a better that deals with totals.

    That being said, this is my only play as far as totals are concerned for this week:

    Colts/Bengals OVER 48 (+129) 1 unit
    Did I mention I love matchbook? It is wonderful what a little scalping can do to get you better odds. All you have to do is put out the traps and hope people come and bite.

    The Colts offense is very, very good. They should be able to do just about anything they want to this Bengals defense, especially when running the ball. This has been the Bengals’ defense’s weakness all year and that’s not going to change with Edgerrin James running right at them. The Bengals offense is also very solid and they might (MIGHT) be able to match the Colts score for score, turning this game into an old fashioned shootout.

    There’s three things that might foul this prediction up. 1) If the Colts are able to consistently get 3-5 yards a carry on the ground vs. the Bengals, they may not be inclined to light it up in the sky. They’ll take the points that the Bengals give them while taking loads of time off the clock. This would be bad for the over. 2) There is a chance of rain on Sunday. If it rains, that will mess with the over. 3) If the Bengals get behind early, they will, no doubt, go into “passing mode”, which the Colts defense is designed to stop. The second Indy goes up by 14 the game will be done. The Bengals won’t be able to score many more points in catch-up passing mode and the Colts will probably be content to let Edge eat up yardage all day.

    I was going to take the colts all the way up to -6.5, but at a sportsbetting forum that I’m a member of, lots of people are taking the Bengals, which scares me.. It seems as though a lot of people are on the Bengals side of the spread, and I think it’s normally going to be a losing proposition to bet against lots of the RX regulars. I might try putting 1 unit on them later if the odds are just too good to pass up. Otherwise, they’re in my fun parlay, so there.

    My fun play: I decided to try a parlay this week for fun. 1.5 unit to win 21 units (20 units profit) at sportingbet.com

    Carolina -2.5
    Denver -12.5
    Seattle -12
    Indianapolis -6.5

    I'm also taking a 6 point teaser in order to try and experiment with teasers. The teaser consists of:

    Dallas -1.5
    NY Giants -1.5
    Seattle -6
    Denver -6.5

    Pays +300.

    Laying 8/5's of a unit to hopefully profit 16/5's. Let's see if I like teasers or not. :P

    Please let me know what y’all think.
    ensign, you need to get out of the habit of always picking the favorite. You won't stay a winner if you don't.
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    I hate you seattle. You blow it in the 4th quarter and give me a TEN unit swing. Rot in hell.
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    the box score shows that sf got 2 touchdowns late.

    did anyone watch the game?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric
    the box score shows that sf got 2 touchdowns late.

    did anyone watch the game?
    I was watching the ticker and it live on gametracker. Sea defence just caved in and the offence desided to pass pass pass pass pass. Great idea.
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    nice call on that indy/cincy totals ensignlee. gotta love those games when you've won it at half-time and can just enjoy the 2nd half regardless. i over-estimated the defensive play of both sides but interesting to see what 2 high-powered offenses can do. in hindsight, i should've parlayed the indy spread/over. could've used it this weekend. Denver was also impressive in a weekend dominated by dogs. no one shows up to play against SF. Seattle nearly goes to OT? seriously. every team must be thinkin its a gonna be a romantic, candle-lit dinner weekend, wtf?

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