Universal Basic Income

[spoonitnow]

What do you mean by it then? And how is the opposite more true? Leftist views here are most prominent among educated high income people in cities. Right-wing and centrist views are most prominent in rural areas among poorly educated working class. Is it different in the US?

What he means is that he hopes we can discard the fiction that the left cares about people and the right cares about themselves and that the opposite is closer to the truth.

What you just said about urban/rural areas, education level and income level are all irrelevant to his point, and a lot of people don't quite understand that.

[CoccoBill]

What he means is that he hopes we can discard the fiction that the left cares about people and the right cares about themselves and that the opposite is closer to the truth.

What you just said about urban/rural areas, education level and income level are all irrelevant to his point, and a lot of people don't quite understand that.

Well the only ones that have even mentioned that have been you two, and the meaning of "skin in the game" is still not any clearer to me. Some passer-by in this discussion might think it hit a nerve though with all this sudden defensiveness.

[BananaStand]

the meaning of "skin in the game" is still not any clearer to me.

MAGA Thread....post #1283

[CoccoBill]

MAGA Thread....post #1283

Thanks, read it. Have to say it made it less clear what wuf meant by his remark to banana's post, but oh well whatever.

BTW in the Taleb article those are definitely not 2 consecutive pages.

My bad.

No worries.

[wufwugy]

Thanks, read it. Have to say it made it less clear what wuf meant by his remark to banana's post, but oh well whatever.

BTW in the Taleb article those are definitely not 2 consecutive pages.

Sorry about those links. Here's the one I read (definitely two consecutive pages). Taleb posted an updated version, which I just skimmed, assuming it was more clear/better. But apparently it has that issue.

https://twitter.com/nntaleb/status/959903625945518080

[wufwugy]

SITG is the filter between the what doesn't work and what works. When somebody is isolated from the consequences of his actions and beliefs, he can act and believe all sorts of things. But when he bears the consequences of his actions and beliefs, success derives from the set of those that work.

[wufwugy]

Thanks, read it. Have to say it made it less clear what wuf meant by his remark to banana's post, but oh well whatever.

SITG is when you bear the rewards and consequences of your actions. When BananaStand said that he spent some time in the real world and got clued in, it is common story that people in the US frequently go through. For example, it is very common among people who have no SITG to think that people who work hard and make a lot of money are screwing people over, yet this view nearly vanishes when those same people develop SITG by working hard and making a lot of money. The transition is because they went from not bearing the ramifications of their ideas/actions to bearing them.

[BananaStand]

people who have no SITG to think that people who work hard and make a lot of money are screwing people over, yet this view nearly vanishes when those same people develop SITG by working hard and making a lot of money.

The other side would suggest that those people have merely been affected by confirmation bias.

[wufwugy]

The other side would suggest that those people have merely been affected by confirmation bias.

Until they get skin in the game.

[spoonitnow]

Well the only ones that have even mentioned that have been you two, and the meaning of "skin in the game" is still not any clearer to me. Some passer-by in this discussion might think it hit a nerve though with all this sudden defensiveness.

My bad. I have too many tabs open and thought I was responding to someone else when I quoted your previous post and acted like a dick.