it has been noted martin, appologies to eupho. it is a subject i take very seriously and feel very strongly about, and it really pisses me off when people insult my intelligence. just to clarify i was saying the article is horse shit, in case people interpreted it as me saying eupho was horse shit.

On another note, I am tired of talking about this. Eupho, you have your opinion, I have mine, and its a waste of time talking about it with each other any more, because i am unwilling to listen to you and you are unwilling to listen to anything i have to say.

Agree to disagree? And no hard feelings?