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  1. #226
    Quote Originally Posted by metaxy6
    Swweeet!!! Just did this - cleared $330. After Neteller fee, that's $322 pure profit.

    Thanks Boon and all for answering questions about this.
    No prob. U use instacash or something? Neteller has always been free for me.
  2. #227
    CON SIMPLE WINNINGS BONUS OFFER TODAY 5/14
    10xWR, 30% with $30 min & max withdrawable, BJ ok, one day only

    • Deposit $100 today -- clock and date on players club page. Do not use neteller anymore here -- that ups the bonus to 50x instead of 10x. But they take epassporte as well as Firepay)
      Wager $300 (30 points -- counter under Cashier Bonus Points)
      Earn $30 bonus.
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  3. #228
    CON does have to be the best thing going. They sent me an email that I participated in a "Simple Winning" Event and gave me $30. Ran that up to $40 and w/drew 30 out. Plus, you accumulate points based on yr total wager that you can convert into cash at any time.

    Those of you with more CON experience - do you find they send you more offers if you keep cashing out, or if you leave a small balance?

    Oh, and the Neteller charge was just for loading Neteller. Wasn't too savvy with it - now I'll keep it loaded.
  4. #229

    Default Re: ARGH. I was so close to clearing it but lost it all.

    Quote Originally Posted by tigerjhun
    Wow, you guys really aren't lying about $200 risk free. Unfortunately I had 150 points. only $500 more to wager. but i started to go on tilt after losing a streak of 4 hands of 5 dollar bets and decided to double the wager to 20 each hand. unfortunately i lost 5 more and which was my entire $200 in bonus. makes me pretty mad since i could've cleared the bonus by keeping it cool and just wagering $2.00 the rest of the way and still make a profit. best strategy would probably be to just wager $2.00 single handed, i'm pretty sure this would GUARANTEE success. i hate variance, whatever that means. OH yeah, im new here!
    Your bet size does not affect EV, just variance. Betting 20 versus has hands of 2 just increases variance. I usually bet more when whoring just to speed it up.
  5. #230

    Default Re: Whoring tips!

    Quote Originally Posted by Waggho
    If you like Royal Vegas, 7 Sultans, Expekt, The Gaming Club or any other Prima room, you have some nice bonus whoring to do. I didn´t realize it until today, but there are in fact about 30 different sites in the Prima network, each of course with a signup bonus! I haven´t checked all of them them out yet, but most of those i looked up seemed nice. There were two places where you can get 25 % up to $50 by playing just 100 raked hands! One place had a 25 % up to 100 bonus with 5 raked hands per dollar, which I believe is PartyPoker style. There is definitely a bunch of money to be made here, especially if you´re like me and love the Primas - players are really fishy there!

    http://www.primapoker.com
    Most of the Prima sites have a T&C that limits you to only one bonus from any Prima account. Remember that you use the same account and name for all of the Prima sites. Look close at the T&C. I know that Cap'n Cooks in fact DOES limit you and I think that Piggs Peak DOES NOT, etc. You have to read the T&C for each site carefully.
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  6. #231
    CON is screwing me. Well, not exactly screwing me, but I thought I'd share this since it will definitely help anyone seeking bonus $ there.
    In small print, they stipulate that anyone using Neteller has to wager not 10x the bonus money, but 50x!! What the hell is that? So, I thought I was golden after wagering 2000 +, but no cigar. This morning, I received my original $ to the Neteller acct, and the bonus monies were reversed to the casino account. I like how they tell me 5 days aftterward, and then don't credit my casino account for another 2-3 days.

    This is part of the email sent:


    >Having reviewed your Game History I can see that since the
    > bonus/es in question was/were issued, you have wagered
    > $___3000.00_. Therefore in order to cashout the bonus you
    > still need to wager (bet) a further $__9760.00__. Since
    > your game history shows that you requested a cashout
    > without wagering the bonus funds according to our policy,
    > the cashout from your account has been cancelled and
    > transferred back to your casino bankroll.
    >
    > You can check the amount of wagering you have done by
    > checking the amount of Bonus Points that you have
    > received. For every $10 you wager you receive 1 point.
    > When you receive a bonus, before wagering any, please
    > check the number of total points you currently have. This
    > way you will be able to calculate how much wagering is
    > required in order to make a cashout of the bonus.
  7. #232
    Yep, its official. My protest was futile:



    Unfortunately, after a double check, I must confirm that Operations
    Department is right in their calculations of the wagering requirements.
    They are extremely attentive and careful in these checks before
    releasing any email to the Member.

    Your miscalculation may be due to the fact the NETeller deposits need to
    be wagered 50 (fifty) times unlike others that only need to be wagered
    20 (twenty) times. This has been decided following intercompany
    agreements.

    Sorry if this disappoints you.

    If you require further assistance in this or any other matter, please
    feel free to contact us at anytime.
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    50x???????

    Fak. That changes the water on the beans.
  9. #234
    Ah Fuck well it got through on my first 2 since it changed. Looks like they are starting to enforce. SUCK!!!!!!!!!!
  10. #235
    Guys seriously you need to start using your checking account now. If they are enforcing this even at my speed this will take like 5+ hours to clear at 5 bucks a hand a frankly I think variance will most people before its clear. Unless you absolutely have no way to use a deposit method other than neteller - use something else. Considering it will make u probably 200 more than u would using neteller its worth it.
  11. #236
    Quote Originally Posted by AHiltz
    That changes the water on the beans.
    What the hell does that mean!!!?
    "The urge to gamble is so universal and it's practice is so pleasurable, that I assume it must be evil." - Heywood Broun
  12. #237
    Ya, I got to find a way to use that water on the beans line.

    But Boon is right - the house edge will catch up with you over the # of hands it takes to clear using Neteller, costing some serious cake.

    I'm halfway through now (at about 5,500) and am taking serious swings. Been up to 550 and down to 275. Just about at the starting point now. That's good, I guess. I'd just love to make them pay for this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmrogers7
    Quote Originally Posted by AHiltz
    That changes the water on the beans.
    What the hell does that mean!!!?
    It's an old saying. Means it changes everything. The post above this one explains why.
  14. #239
    Quote Originally Posted by metaxy6
    Ya, I got to find a way to use that water on the beans line.

    But Boon is right - the house edge will catch up with you over the # of hands it takes to clear using Neteller, costing some serious cake.

    I'm halfway through now (at about 5,500) and am taking serious swings. Been up to 550 and down to 275. Just about at the starting point now. That's good, I guess. I'd just love to make them pay for this.
    For future reference fellas - if you get way above ur 200 bonus - like id say 100 or more - cash out the amount above 200 - wait for it to clear - then start hackin away at it again. Like the dude above could have taken 350 out when he was at 550 because u only can't take out the bonus. So make sure you just cashout whatever above the bonus is and it should clear fine.
  15. #240
    Quote Originally Posted by AHiltz
    Quote Originally Posted by jmrogers7
    Quote Originally Posted by AHiltz
    That changes the water on the beans.
    What the hell does that mean!!!?
    It's an old saying. Means it changes everything. The post above this one explains why.
    I guess I should've said that I know what you meant on a literal level. I just never heard that analogy and it doesn't make any sense to me. But, I like it and I will use it just to see the confused look on people's faces when I do!
    "The urge to gamble is so universal and it's practice is so pleasurable, that I assume it must be evil." - Heywood Broun
  16. #241
    F**K
    Went on tilt and bombed out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by metaxy6
    F**K
    Went on tilt and bombed out.
    Casino - 1 Metaxy6 - 0
    Hey; don't count opportunity cost as a lost opportunity.

    You were playing with THEIR money.

    The real score is

    Casino - 0
    Metaxy6 - 0

    It's a tie. All good. And you had at least a LITTLE fun doing it, right?
  18. #243
    BET365 has a decent casino bonus. 100% up to $200, given right away, 10xWR bonus+deposit (20x), clearable w/BJ. So far I'm losing money, but hey, that's variance, right? I'm way up on CON and Eurobet, so it's allllll gooood. For BJ they offer a surrender version that more closely matches the WizardOfOdds.com instructions.

    Extra info --
    They have a Prima poker room and a sports book too. They are mostly about sports betting.
    If you are a sports betting type, put your initial deposit into sportsbook first for a 10% 3.5XWR bonus (beats a stick in the eye.) Then move the same funds into the casino for the casino bonus. Email support for the 10% bonus. Cashier interface is like the Eurobet interface.
    Their poker room has a 100% $50 250 raked hands bonus, raked at $5 pot. If this is worth your time, move the same funds into poker for that bonus. There is no referral bonus and FTR doesn't offer this room for signups, so you're on your own (or go over to BW and use their link.)EDIT - FTR does have a link for Bet365 -- use it and help pay for your information. -- e
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  19. #244
    I've already done both Planet Luck, Star Luck and CON with following results.

    PL - 100 + 100 - finished with 163 (2$ bets)
    SL - 100+100 finished with 61 ! (2$ bets)
    CON - 200+200 finished with 316 (3$ bets)

    Profit = +63 -39 +116 = +140

    I've played the basic strategy like a robot, no feeling, no tilt, nothing, so house edge should be just slightly above 0.3%.

    Should have finished with aprox.:
    PL - 195
    SL - 195
    CON - 394

    Variance is always expected in these cases, but surprisingly (or maybe not) it was always against myself and quite strong. It's hard to believe that these folks don't have the "machines" biased in their favour...

    Anyway it's free money and that's positive.

    Any suggestions for the next one ?
  20. #245
    I lost most of Bet365 $200 bonus, but got to keep $50 of their money. woot!
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  21. #246
    Just hit the PlanetLuck and StarLuck for a combined $170 profit.

    Pretty nice way to make up for the CON debacle - after clearing the wr, I kept going cause I was pissed about the Neteller wrinke. Ended up costing me Neteller fees.

    So, a good rebound. And the payouts were lightning fast.

    Played the Las Vegas Strip game - it's supposed to be the best odds, and the dealer doesn't hit on soft 17. Only negative is can't double after split, which makes some marginal splits not worth doing (eg, 77 vs dealer's 2 or 3).

    The odds are also supposed to be a lot better using flash version, as opposed to download - for just this one platform (igaming).

    Used the Flash on StarLuck and it did feel softer. It timed out more, but if the odds are really 2x as good with flash, a few time outs is worth it.

    Here's link to the download/flash claim. This guy seems to know what he's talking about in general, even if his free chip offers are kind of lame:

    http://www.onlineblackjackguide.com/...ullreview.html

    Next up: Player's Vegas and 50 Stars. Anyone with experience on those?
  22. #247
    made 260 on starluck - didnt make a god damn penny on planet luck broke dead even - i love how much faster it goes on those sites than casino on net. U can probably get through 15 hands a minute comapred to like 6-7.
  23. #248
    Pretty much sums up this thread !!!!!!!!



    Ha Classic!!!!!!!!!!!!
  24. #249
    I got over $130 at Starluck and just $30 at Planetluck.
    How to get a little extra bonus from Starluck/PlanetLuck- OVER $40.
    Starting at Starluck, signup for their GlobalMedia Player's Club. Seek out the pink survey box and complete that current survey and all prior surveys (after the 1st survey there is a link to examine past surveys -- do them.)
    Do the same at PlanetLuck By doing both sets the surveys, you get over 2000 club points, over four thousand points total.
    THEN link your Playerclub accounts together and cash out all 4000 points to Starluck for $40 extra -- and no WR. Link AFTER doing all the surveys.

    Be patient here. It takes about a day to get the club, and a day to cash out once you complete the WR's. You should count your own wagering because the club lags severly. Edit: Being patient also allows your BJ earned points to hit your club account, worth another 2 or 3 bucks. Also, don't forget to IGMPAY Starluck and Planetluck
    *Party Bingo (the 3rd room) is a money pit. Party Bingo has no surveys.
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  25. #250
    Cool thanks for the info. Ill check it out fo sho.
  26. #251
    ya, i'll check that out too, thanks.
    wonder if i can still do it after clearning out the account?

    also, fyi, there are some free money offers out there with decent wr to clear.
    coolcat casino bonus code CATCHIP75 the wr must be met on slots, but if you've got time try to build up a br on bj first, then see if it can withstand the withering assualt of the 30x playthrough on slots. $75 max cashout.

    connectocasino - forget the exact terms, but its free money. same deal - build it on bj, burn it on autoplay slots, see what's left.

    cirrus casino - i think this allows bj to count toward wr.

    here's a link; i haven't checked all these out:
    http://www.hutcasino.com/nodepositbonus.htm
  27. #252
    Quote Originally Posted by eeeee
    I got over $130 at Starluck and just $30 at Planetluck.
    How to get a little extra bonus from Starluck/PlanetLuck/PartyBingo - $60.
    Starting at Starluck, signup for their GlobalMedia Player's Club. Seek out the pink survey box and complete that current survey and all prior surveys.
    Do the same at all three placed -- careful about PartyBingo*, I'll explain below.
    By doing all the surveys, you get over 2000 club points, six thousand points total.
    THEN link your Playerclub accounts together and cash out all 6000 points to Starluck for $60 extra -- and no WR.

    Be patient here. It takes about a day to get the club, and a day to cash out once you complete the WR's. You should count your own wagering because the club lags severly.


    *Party Bingo is a money pit. But, for a mere $25 deposit, you can send $20 in survey money to your Starluck account, and they will triple your deposit. So for effectively $5 you can mess with $75 in slots and video poker (and probably lose it).
    Damn started this and its fuggin sweet as hell. already got 21 for the surveys at starluck and am about to do the others. Maybe ill strike it rich at bingo. Considering I have played like 200k hands of poker probably its nice to mix it up with stuff like this.
  28. #253
    VERY IMPORTANT, do this before you link your accounts. i had already linked planet and starluck, and was only allowed to do the survey one time. Still have party bingo thats not linked yet. plus I added $480 to my BR though the 2 luck sites, so I won't complain too loud.

    On another note, just got an email from starluck saying they were giving me $5.00. Look out black jack tables, here I come.





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  29. #254
    Just a heads-up for those of you working the system:

    <<A new casino operator has just been added to the OBG Blacklist! Casino Partners Inc., operators of Casino Del Rio, Casino Europa, Casino Tropez and Vegas Red Casino are now officially Blacklisted!

    Threats, intimation and refusal to pay customers their winnings, because you labeled them an "advantage player" has earned you this position. What is an "advantage player" anyway? Someone who didn't lose money to your casino? So enjoy your new title, BLACKLISTED!>>
  30. #255
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    Ok, I go to C-O-N throught boondocks link, sign up, deposit $200, get the bonus of $200, withdraw my initial $200, and then starte playing with the bonus only?

    THese charts you are all talking bout -any links?
  31. #256
    http://www.blackjackinfo.com/bjbse.php
    insert the parameters of the decks and the game and u will have the perfect strategy chart for that game.

    I forget wat the CON setup was., But i do kno that it involved 4 decks.
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    Question about CON.. my friend wants to do it but he cannot withdraw the money to his own bank account. Do you guys think there would be trouble if he withdrew it to mine? After I've already done the bonus myself and used the same account to take out my own money.
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    Haha I did it now and I wasn't able to clear the bonus before going broke

    I followed the charts, bad luck I guess. I hate blackjack.
  34. #259

    Default Re: Whoring tips!

    Quote Originally Posted by Waggho
    If you like Royal Vegas, 7 Sultans, Expekt, The Gaming Club or any other Prima room, you have some nice bonus whoring to do. I didn´t realize it until today, but there are in fact about 30 different sites in the Prima network, each of course with a signup bonus! I haven´t checked all of them them out yet, but most of those i looked up seemed nice. There were two places where you can get 25 % up to $50 by playing just 100 raked hands! One place had a 25 % up to 100 bonus with 5 raked hands per dollar, which I believe is PartyPoker style. There is definitely a bunch of money to be made here, especially if you´re like me and love the Primas - players are really fishy there!

    http://www.primapoker.com
    They fucked up last time I cashed out and I lost my money...

    No thank you.
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    I did the thing on C-O-N. While i got the $200 bonus I also reffered a friend of mine, who did excactly the same thing as me, and I got an extra $100 bonus. Cleared the bonus just right know. This must be about the easiest money I've ever made.

    A big thanks to the ppl posting and helping out about this!!!
  36. #261
    Quote Originally Posted by ake
    Question about CON.. my friend wants to do it but he cannot withdraw the money to his own bank account. Do you guys think there would be trouble if he withdrew it to mine? After I've already done the bonus myself and used the same account to take out my own money.
    Hm im not sure that sounds kinda risky. Did u already do it? Id just have em send you a check. I know a couple people that chose the check route and got the checks just fine.
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    check that. That's REALLY, INSANELY risky. They do crosscheck payment / cashout methods. If you already did it, cross your fingers and pray, but yeah.

    If he deposited using his checking account, he can withdraw using it. There should be no reason for this not to prove true.
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    Results of my whoring

    PlanetLuck - $100 invested $165 returned
    PartyBingo - $25 invested $0 returned
    StarLuck - $100 invested $335 returned

    I also did the surveys at Planet and Star to give me an extra $43.20.

    I am yet to try and clear the $25 refer a friend bonus from Star.
  39. #264
    I didn't get the surveys at Party Bingo. So much for bright ideas. If anyone did get the PB surveys let us all know, K? I edited my old post so no one else gets misled, but I'll change it back if PB surveys worked for anyone else.
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    Looks like they have stopped the surveys at PB. No one seems to be getting them
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    yeah i think thats safe to say.

    so has anyone besides me gotten 1000 points for a loyalty bonus in ur globalmedia account or whatever. that was a nice surprise.
  42. #267
    Quote Originally Posted by BoondockSaint
    yeah i think thats safe to say.

    so has anyone besides me gotten 1000 points for a loyalty bonus in ur globalmedia account or whatever. that was a nice surprise.
    Yep. I was leaving cash in Planet Luck, and thought I got it because I didn't w/d in less than 24 hours . But maybe we got it when we signed up for the second room? Nice either way. $10!
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    lol i actually got mine from starluck - planetluck didnt give me any
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    Hey. On Planetluck and Starluck, can you not withdraw your deposit once you lost your bonus until you clear it? WTF?!?!

    They've got quite a bit of my money in there. Or is this just some customer service lackey not knowing what they're talking about?

    Should I have waited until I was able to withdraw my deposit before I ever tried to clear teh bonus? WHya m I asking? Becasue on both Planetluck and Starluck, I ended up with $0 of either bonus before I ever reached teh wagering requirement.
  45. #270
    I did bet365 tonight -- it's not no-risk. They match 100% up to $200, and you have to wager 10 times (your deposit+bonus), so $4000 to clear the full bonus. I actually did dip down to $195 in the account at one point, but managed to get back up to $500, finally settling in at $394 after cashing out my 400 "comp points" for 4 bucks.

    Had to call them up to process the withdrawl, but they say 24 hours.

    Kind of makes up for the paltry $60 I got out of Casino-on-Net, having to wait most of a week to get it.
  46. #271
    Quote Originally Posted by ensign_lee
    Hey. On Planetluck and Starluck, can you not withdraw your deposit once you lost your bonus until you clear it? WTF?!?!

    They've got quite a bit of my money in there. Or is this just some customer service lackey not knowing what they're talking about?

    Should I have waited until I was able to withdraw my deposit before I ever tried to clear teh bonus? WHya m I asking? Becasue on both Planetluck and Starluck, I ended up with $0 of either bonus before I ever reached teh wagering requirement.
    CON is nearly unique in allowing you to play with the bonus after withdrawing your original deposit. The 'risk free' deal is not all over. There are still a few casinos with smart math, but CON's risk free set up is sweet. StarLuck and PlanetLuck are considered #2 and #3 in risk/reward, but are not risk free. You cannot withdraw from them until you complete the whole WR. If you are losing and want to surrender the bonus, all the losses come out of your original deposit.

    You missed it. It was gooooood.
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  47. #272
    Looks like CON is having another Happy Day 10% up to $200 bonus at the end of the month. If you have 2k to be able to tie up for 2 weeks, that is.

    I only joined CON last month and only did the sign up bonus and a simple winnings $30 bonus last week. Does the "Happy Day" bonus get applied immediately? If so and I bust out of the $200 before I meet the WR, can I withdraw my deposit? I have the impression that I can but wanted to double check.
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    yes, yes, and yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by metaxy6
    Just a heads-up for those of you working the system:

    <<A new casino operator has just been added to the OBG Blacklist! Casino Partners Inc., operators of Casino Del Rio, Casino Europa, Casino Tropez and Vegas Red Casino are now officially Blacklisted!

    Threats, intimation and refusal to pay customers their winnings, because you labeled them an "advantage player" has earned you this position. What is an "advantage player" anyway? Someone who didn't lose money to your casino? So enjoy your new title, BLACKLISTED!>>


    eeeeee? Comments?
  51. #276
    Quote Originally Posted by ensign_lee
    Quote Originally Posted by metaxy6
    Just a heads-up for those of you working the system:

    <<A new casino operator has just been added to the OBG Blacklist! Casino Partners Inc., operators of
    edit - eeeee
    Quote Originally Posted by metaxy6
    are now officially Blacklisted!

    Threats, intimation and refusal to pay customers their winnings, because you labeled them an "advantage player" has earned you this position. What is an "advantage player" anyway? Someone who didn't lose money to your casino? So enjoy your new title, BLACKLISTED!>>
    eeeeee? Comments?
    I don't want to get into it here, but the blacklisting is only OBG deep, and may have to do with rude behavior by a casino employee. There have also been a history of poor terms in the T&C. But it looks like they are mending their ways.
    Edit I'm not an expert, and am new at this (about 20 casinos and poker rooms now), but I'm getting the picture that, beyond CON, SL, & PL, the reasonable casino bonuses don't last for ever. The bonuses appear, everyone jumps on them, and the bonuses disappear again. As I research for my next bonus, I follow many stale leads, spending too much time chasing old information. The flip side of the coin is that easily found information causes the value and timeliness of the information to diminish rapidly. I say all that to say, being a good citizen who understands the 'tragedy of the commons', I removed the information in this post and my previous post.
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  52. #277
    Has anybody here tries the Aceclub? It appears that it is owned by the same company as Starluck and Planet luck, and uses the same software. But the Wagering requirements are 30x, instead of 8 times. Just wondering if anyone here has done it and whether you had any luck with the steep WR.





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    JeffreyGB's comprehensive guide to bonus whoring has been posted:
    http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...ic.php?t=11719
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    Little extra info on PL/SL. My friend and I got an extra $25 and $50 for the Tell-a-Friend bonus. This bonus is different -- 10x, NO BJ!, and their video poker is horrible. In this case, PL timed the $25 TAF bonus so it locked up the withdrawl of my buddy's other $230 from the Welcome bonus playthru. So he has to play $250 more on VP/Slots. SL/PL VP has poor payout schedule, so it may eat into his BJ earnings before he can withdraw.

    I say all that to say, if you can, time your TAF bonus until after you have made a withdrawl, or combine a few TAF bonuses until you have enough dough to withstand the variance of VP.

    I've been told Bonus Joker Poker is the best to clear this TAF bonus, but the min bets are $1, so you are likely to crash fast. Of the 10 cent VP, I've had decent luck with the Jungle Rumble. One recommendation I read was to treat the TAF like a sticky, try to double it up quick, then work off the WR -- I would only do this if my other bonuses had already been withdrawn.
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  55. #280
    Yeah their tell a friend shit is gay - but thankfully - they have it screwed so it never seems to give it to you from the start you always have to go into live chat and get it later - so because of this - like eeeee mentioned i believe - make sure you withdraw everything for your original bonus - then go into live chat - and get your 25 and 50 friend bonuses so that is all your really risking and none of your original investment capital that you already cleared. I dont really like how SL and PL have their setup with witholding every last penny of your account until u do all their crap even if its like a 5 dollar bonus thing they gave - then u always have to wait 24 hours for the shit to be released from its hold so u can withdraw.
  56. #281
    My friend told me about this deal and I quickly jumped on the wagon. I was betting $1 a hand and realized it was going to take a gazillion years for me to clear the bonus. So I started betting $5 a hand. I got it up to around $350. I exited the room when I started losing many hands in a row. Anyway, I got it up to a $1000. Yes...$1000...it was ridiculous. Right after I hit the 1k mark, everything went downhill. Doubling down didn't work at all, the dealer would get BJs against my 20s, the dealer would get 21 after hitting 5 cards. Well...maybe it's my fault for not qutting at $1000 but honestly, I was gonna make a run for it and I came down hard. Literally, my hours of work gone in less than 10 minutes. I do admit that I don't have a strong mindset. After all, who does? Who could fold pocket Ks after someone reraises you?

    Anyway, after my loss. I opened up another account......and got it up to a $400. But after I went to a different room, I started losing again. I lost my OWN $ + bonus money.

    Do you guys see a pattern here? CASINO-ON-NET wants you to win first and that's why they lure you in. It will get a grip on your psyche. You will just sit there mindless...clicking that button. My friend emailed casino on net regarding the decks and stuff. They use 4 decks and reshuffle EVERY SINGLE hand. I don't even wanna calculate the house advantage. Famous BJ players like Ken Uston, Kevin Blackwood, etc. count cards for a reason...to put odds in their hands. With Casino-on-net, it's impossible. Hi-Lo, Hi-opt II, Uston APC, etc simply wont work. I mean...if everybody on this forum makes $$ off of casino-on-net....they would be out of business. Some of you guys alreayd made $...more power to you and for those of you who are considering this deal. I would say go grind it out at your local casino playing $3/6. All you need is 2 big pots....
  57. #282
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    The odds for blackjack are always stacked in the house's favor. That's a fact, but it's not stacked so much so that doing this bonus is -EV. Indeed, the house edge, assuming they shuffle every hand and you play mathematically perfect blackjack, is only 50.7% or so (give or take .2%). Why is CON so awesome? Because unless you start wagering your deposit, YOU CAN'T LOSE MONEY. You might not win any money, but you can't lose it as long as you don't dip into your deposit. CON is the only place where the first dollars you wager are counted as your bonus instead of your deposit. If you lose your bonus, you can still withdraw your deposit.

    And no offense or anything, but you could not have lost $1000 in 10 minutes placing $5 bets.

    As for the game letting you win in the beginning and then making you lose, that's simply not true. I had two friends of mine who just flat out started losing, and kept losing, until their deposit was gone. Every double down on 11 turned into a 13-16, stupid stuff like that. CON does NOT "let you win" in the beginning to give you a "winning psyche" to make you try to gamble more. The odds are the odds. That's life.
  58. #283
    Quote Originally Posted by straight167
    ... I do admit that I don't have a strong mindset. After all, who does? Who could fold pocket Ks after someone reraises you?

    Anyway, after my loss. I opened up another account......and got it up to a $400. But after I went to a different room, I started losing again. I lost my OWN $ + bonus money.

    Do you guys see a pattern here? Casino-On-Net wants you to win first and that's why they lure you in. It will get a grip on your psyche. You will just sit there mindless...clicking that button. My friend emailed Casino On Net regarding the decks and stuff. They use 4 decks and reshuffle EVERY SINGLE hand. I don't even wanna calculate the house advantage. Famous BJ players like Ken Uston, Kevin Blackwood, etc. count cards for a reason...to put odds in their hands. With Casino-On-Net, it's impossible. Hi-Lo, Hi-opt II, Uston APC, etc simply wont work. I mean...if everybody on this forum makes $$ off of Casino-On-Net....they would be out of business. Some of you guys alreayd made $...more power to you and for those of you who are considering this deal. I would say go grind it out at your local casino playing $3/6. All you need is 2 big pots....
    All CON needs is one guy in five without "a strong mindset". I don't know their exact business model, but casino after casino finds it profitable to offer bonuses, piss off smart players with crappy rules and reversals, and keep the folks without "a strong mindset" as paying customers.
    CON is far and away the best one, being extremely patient with "advantage players" like us, offering repeated bonuses. They are not perfect, but are the best.

    All that being said, please don't play the casinos, Straight167. I don't want to bash, I want to encourage you to not lose your money in casinos if you don't have a "strong mindset." Don't be the one-in-five who can't stop playing.

    I have a buddy who is a little bit of a gambl00r. He has money troubles constantly. He plays smart poker, then rationalizes his poor money decisions as entertainment and bad cards, and winds up depositing more cash for entertainment and thrill rather than pulling money out. I've taken him on as a whoring protege; I'm holding his hand in a quest to build up his bankroll, with his promise that he'll do exactly as I say and not play any more hands than required, and only the game I approve at each site (ass, aren't I?.) In two weeks he has accumulated over $600 going to 5 casinos. He's excited? Yes! How long will it go on? Probably not much longer -- He left some dollars in one room to play keno. Keeeeenooooo!?! He's talking about hitting the thousand coin pot. Not good. Prediction? He won't use the bonuses to pay bills, he'll use his new knowlege to finance his old stupidities. Love him? Yeah, but the mindset is wrong.

    Again, please don't play the casinos, Straight167. I don't want to bash, I want to encourage you to not lose your money in casinos if you don't have a "strong mindset." Don't choose to keep playing when the house has the advantage.
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  59. #284
    Casino self-whore starter thumbnail guidelines.

    Starter Guidelines
    • Read the T&C'sat each site -- these are the rules of the whoring game -- learn what to avoid.
      Play only the WR -- you may add 10% more hands if you plan to come back to the same casino someday. The math doesn't work anymore after the WR is met.
      Play a game with a low House Advantage of less than 1%* (far less, if possible) -- usually BJ / Pontoon, sometimes certain Video Pokers.
      Play a game with low limits to decrease volatility -- 1% or less of your bonus per bet seems ideal, more than 2% of your bonus+deposit per bet might make for a very volitile game. e.g. Deposit $200, get $100? If you won't die, play $1 per hand. If you choose to play for more than $6 a hand you may be tempting the fates -- the +EV is the same but don't cry if you lose your stack from volatility.
      Get a correct play chart and stick to it -- low HA is measured on perfect statistical play, not on hunches.
      Don't expect your withdrawn money to arrive any time soon -- keep track of where your money is. Some casinos play little games to make you provide documents, or they wait for you to ask for your money twice after reversing your withdrawl.
      Be polite when contacting Customer Support -- a CS whim can affect your bottom line -- and you will have to contact customer support semi-regularly.
      Remember secondary freebees -- referral bonuses, surveys, 3rd party signup gifts, comp/loyalty/club point cashouts
      Follow the rules -- read the T&C's -- casinos are not run by social workers. If you break the rules of the game, they will keep your bonus. If you break more important rules, like one signup per house, they may keep your winnings and/or deposit too. If you find an unclear rule, get a clarification in email, so you have proof. They are giving money away -- we don't have to lie and cheat -- just follow the rules.


    *I've been reading elsewhere with interest of some whores trying the 2% HA games that have lower volitility -- Casino War, Pai Gow -- but I haven't tried it yet myself, but there is less EV and more frequent deposit losses.
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  60. #285
    Quote Originally Posted by ensign_lee
    And no offense or anything, but you could not have lost $1000 in 10 minutes placing $5 bets.
    if i didnt lose $1k then i wouldnt have posted on here and no i wasnt betting $5 a hand when i got up that high.
  61. #286
    Quote Originally Posted by straight167
    My friend told me about this deal and I quickly jumped on the wagon. I was betting $1 a hand and realized it was going to take a gazillion years for me to clear the bonus. So I started betting $5 a hand. I got it up to around $350. I exited the room when I started losing many hands in a row. Anyway, I got it up to a $1000. Yes...$1000...it was ridiculous. Right after I hit the 1k mark, everything went downhill. Doubling down didn't work at all, the dealer would get BJs against my 20s, the dealer would get 21 after hitting 5 cards. Well...maybe it's my fault for not qutting at $1000 but honestly, I was gonna make a run for it and I came down hard. Literally, my hours of work gone in less than 10 minutes. I do admit that I don't have a strong mindset. After all, who does? Who could fold pocket Ks after someone reraises you?

    Anyway, after my loss. I opened up another account......and got it up to a $400. But after I went to a different room, I started losing again. I lost my OWN $ + bonus money.

    Do you guys see a pattern here? Casino-On-Net wants you to win first and that's why they lure you in. It will get a grip on your psyche. You will just sit there mindless...clicking that button. My friend emailed Casino On Net regarding the decks and stuff. They use 4 decks and reshuffle EVERY SINGLE hand. I don't even wanna calculate the house advantage. Famous BJ players like Ken Uston, Kevin Blackwood, etc. count cards for a reason...to put odds in their hands. With Casino-On-Net, it's impossible. Hi-Lo, Hi-opt II, Uston APC, etc simply wont work. I mean...if everybody on this forum makes $$ off of Casino-On-Net....they would be out of business. Some of you guys alreayd made $...more power to you and for those of you who are considering this deal. I would say go grind it out at your local casino playing $3/6. All you need is 2 big pots....
    I think you have a gambling problem. Seriously.

    It has "a grip on your psyche"?

    That is NOT healthy.
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  62. #287
    I cleared Del Rio last week, took 8 days and email of ID to get paid. $125.00 profit just landed in my neteller account. Thanks for the tip eeeee.





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  63. #288
    Quote Originally Posted by Pizzaman
    I cleared ------ last week, took 8 days and email of ID to get paid. $125.00 profit just landed in my neteller account. Thanks for the tip eeeee.
    Do it in POUNDS! And not so loud, it is a blacklisted casino.

    I love my casino whoring buddies. I think fondly of my first experience at Casino On Net. Anyone want to PM me with a new BJ casino?

    EuroBet's Poker $25 Bonus code for July is "JULY25"
    EuroBet's Casino $25 Bonus code for July is"STAND" for USD users.
    No minimum deposit, just move it around.

    I JUST finished Omni. dep 335/ bonus 100 / 2500 wr, slow W/D due to PIN, no risk -- lose bonus first? - w/d deposit! The lowest House Advantage (HA) there is Pontoon -- you can google for "pontoon" "wizardofodds" and find the play card. Peak comp points are slow to track your wagering, so keep track yourself, but cash out your player points prior to cash out - about $5 or $6. They have a ReferAFriend deal there too, which can't hurt. I only cleared $49 of the bonus, but it is $49 I didn't have yesterday.
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  64. #289
    +342 on CON, assuming everything gets back to me nicely that is a significant increase to the BR. Hooray.
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  65. #290
    I am loving the bottom line on casino whoring, and I'm so excited, I want to tell the world, but.....
    Quote Originally Posted by FTR Index
    In total there are 32 users online :: 6 Registered, 0 Hidden and 26 Guests
    there are 4 lurkers for every member. Look at how many viewings there have been of this thread.....
    Quote Originally Posted by FTR Online Poker Rooms
    Whoring tips!
    Goto page: 1 ... 4, 5, 6 replies=288, Views= 8206
    The big whoring forum (not FTR) dropped their casino site because they basically wiped out bonus after bonus. What is left of the casino whoring over there is either in private forum, or, if posted publicly, they still overwhelm casinos with whores within 2 weeks or less, somtimes, after whoring info is posted. And their site gets a ton of traffic that is just lurker traffic -- no contribution, just taking. FTR is getting bigger. I don't want to kill the goose that lays the golden eggs with a new army of BJ-converted poker whores.

    Is there any way we could be more discreet about this? I was thinking about setting up some sort of whore email system or a swapped tip system, or something. And I don't want to be snobby about this, because the information is out there for anyone to find -- the power is in doing a little research work for one's self, then pooling info with other community members. If I'm out of line, please set me straight.
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  66. #291
    This C-O-N looks great, wish I woulda seen it sooner. Question though - do I sit at the public or private blackjack tables? Sorry I've searched around this thread and cannot find the answer. Thanks much to those of you working hard for bonuses that are sharing info with us!
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  67. #292
    Quote Originally Posted by rhino
    This C-O-N looks great, wish I woulda seen it sooner. Question though - do I sit at the public or private blackjack tables? Sorry I've searched around this thread and cannot find the answer. Thanks much to those of you working hard for bonuses that are sharing info with us!
    Public tables are for chatting. Private tables are for the business-like completion of your whoring duties.
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  68. #293
    Hmm, anyone know the wagering requirements for PlanetLuck? I thought it was 8x. Maybe I have counted it wrong...

    EDIT: Nevermind. They had some automated answer, it's 8x but it takes 24h for the system to let me cash out. I managed to keep my 100$ bonus intact, very nice! Thanks for all the tips guys.
  69. #294
    check out www.playpokeronline.web-log.nl
    just started, but it seems to do a decent job of collecting all deposit bonuscodes and overviews
  70. #295
    I love this.
    Starluck +125$
    Planetluck +100$
    Bet365 +370$ (!!!)

    Concidering my poker bankroll is around 500$, this is the shit.
    Let's just hope no casino refuses to pay b/c of whoring or something =/ Got my payout from Starluck already however.
  71. #296
    Quote Originally Posted by Pizzaman
    Has anybody here tries the Aceclub? It appears that it is owned by the same company as Starluck and Planet luck, and uses the same software. But the Wagering requirements are 30x, instead of 8 times. Just wondering if anyone here has done it and whether you had any luck with the steep WR.
    Aceclub g00t.
    It is Empire's Aceclub, compared to PP's PlanetLuck+StarLuck.
    Higher wr had me spooked, but the math is still good, and it is nothing compared to many other casinos. Do the $500/$150/WR4500 for new signups -- the math is better -- Expected Value is over $120. Plus they have IGMpay bonus of 20% UPTO $200! WR of 3600 on BJ is a very resonable risk for $200 (EV is even better than the signup bonus.)
    PM me for other details if you like.
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  72. #297
    I busted out on ace club. About halfway through the WR, got on a coldstreak, I think essentially its goot, but didn't work for me.





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  73. #298
    Eurobet August 2005 Bonus codes
    Casino = USD = 'YELLOW' GBP='PINK' 10x$25
    Poker = The August bonus code is 'AUG25' 12x$25

    edit 8/2 -- my bad -- Poker = The August bonus code is 'AUG25' 15x$25
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  74. #299
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    Quote Originally Posted by eeeee
    Eurobet August 2005 Bonus codes
    Casino = USD = 'YELLOW' GBP='PINK' 10x$25
    Poker = The August bonus code is 'AUG25' 12x$25

    Wasn't the poker req.'s 10X25 last month? Did it go up?

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  75. #300
    Quote Originally Posted by Gatlin Dan
    Quote Originally Posted by eeeee
    Eurobet August 2005 Bonus codes
    Casino = USD = 'YELLOW' GBP='PINK' 10x$25
    Poker = The August bonus code is 'AUG25' 12x$25

    Wasn't the poker req.'s 10X25 last month? Did it go up?
    I edited above. Poker requirements have been $375WR, which is 15x - unchanged.
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