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 Originally Posted by wesrman
 Originally Posted by Lukie
different strokes for different folks, i guess.
I never liked the 5 days a week one body part per day thing and if you read what i said later in the thread is that those splits usually only work for advanced lifters.
Isolation exercises are good for bringing up certain bodyparts and adding variety, but they dont build muscle nearly as well imo. Chins and barbell curls are much better at building muscle than concentration curls, but that doesnt mean they arent good ever.
Besides any advice is useless unless you apply it and see how it works for you cuz everyone is different and responds differently.
EDIT: and the key to what u said is that you're doing the main lifts, not avoiding them in favour of isolation exercises which is what a lot of people do. The reason people preach the basics is because they work. Its more about hard work than anything else, and the basics are hard. Bench, deads, squats, pull ups etc.
I agree with the overall premise here, but just to be nit picky, barbell curls (performed correctly) are an isolation exercise as well as concentration curls, although it's clear which one is the better mass movement. 
In my eyes, and this is from a bodybuilding perspective, isolation work is necessary to see some beautiful (no homo) cuts in the various muscle groups.. e.g. being able to clearly see the different heads of the triceps and shoulders are great examples.
Now actually packing on muscle in the first place.. yes.. heavy compound lifts, lots of food, lots of sleep. There's no way around any of that for a natural lifter, so I think we agree on a lot here.
Also, re: splits, I think there's a lot to be said for 4 day splits.. basically taking mine, splitting up arms.. adding tri's after chest, bi's after back, rearranging everything a bit and adding a rest day on wednesday (2 on, 1 off, 2 on, 2 off). A split similar to that has probably been the one I've used more than any other.
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