Quote Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan View Post
wuf your post was very long and ill just respond to things that I feel like i strongly disagreed.

"Yes, the private organization can regulate, and it does, a lot. The problem with governance exclusively coming from a private organization (special interest) is that it governs in its own best interest, not the populous' best interests."

Its own best interests better damn be the populous' best interest or they aren't getting any of populous' money.
This is refuted by the myriads of oppressed peoples governed by special interests. Also, just take the whole housing crisis as an example. This entire thing is a fantastic example of special interests exploiting the system and screwing the populous. Part of how the banks did this was by pretending to give the public something they valued. As it turns out, it was a lie, and in fact it was such a lie that we got double fucked by having to support those very same special interests in order to keep the entire system from collapsing. They basically ran off with our money then came back with big ass guns they bought with our money telling us that they need more money and on top of that that which we bought from them systematically lost so much value as to put us into more negative territory than if we'd never bought it in the first place

The Crisis of 08 and the Great Recession are extremely great examples of how private interests exploit the system when allowed unregulated reign.

Why pay an organization to do something that you don't support? Oh right, because its the law to pay the government tax money to do x,y, and z, much of which I don't support
There's a lot the government does that I disagree with a ton, but you're conflating issues and throwing the baby out with the bathwater by claiming that government doing something wrong = government wrong

It seems to me the simply doing whatever it is is going to make the organization money should be what the people who are giving that money to the organization value.
And this is how private industry operates, and it fucks a whole lot of people over due to exacerbating inequalities. We live in a world with a billion people starving everyday, yet there is more than ample supply to feed them. Following the money and private interests will reveal why these people live on less than 1$ a day.

"What I would like to say though is this: I want to have a wife, but I also don't want to have a wife. I want to have a family, but I also don't want a family. There are many things that I want, but many of them do not support each other, and I could go to great length explaining the reasons and pros/cons for my desires, yet I still have little clue as to what I 'really want' with regards to these decisions."

I think I went too far from my original argument with the post that this was commenting on. All I'm saying is I don't think something should happen for the benefit or non-benefit of an individual unless that individual performed the actions that created those consequences.
I completely agree, yet the fucked up thing is that reality itself is geared towards inequality, and not regulating this creates a social paradigm where some humans are born into rich upper class and others are born in Liberia. It is disingenuous to suggest that people should not get things they don't deserve yet support a perpetuation of a society that distributes resources unequally thus giving people things they don't deserve.

So we will just agree to disagree here. I don't believe that.
What, then, is your starting point, your most basic of assumptions with regards to humanity and civilization.