Quote Originally Posted by Renton View Post
We're not talking about how a state can gain by initiating violence, we're talking about morality. The NAP wasn't devised with optimal nation-building in mind.
Then it's moral rules-making and...

Quote Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla View Post
The NA principle is rules-making. But why would anyone follow the rule? The answer had better be because it's their natural habit to do it (which Sapolsky had an interesting video exploring) or that there exists something to coerce people to follow it - refs, police, presidents, Gods, something.

But there isn't anything. People follow it because it's the best communal choice available, and people love best communal choices./s