Wow. Freedom of speech?

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1) They're campus security guards. They've got no real authority. Everyone knows this. Hell, my kids lip off and/or don't listen to the security guards on our high school campus all the time. Our kids at the H.S. level know that our guards have a certain amount of power, but it's not like they're real police officers so they know they can get away with more shit.

This is wrong. UF (And most large colleges) have their own police force. These were the real deal, and this kid is lucky he didn't get charged with more. (Resisting Arrest, for example)

So they get the beefy guy in and he's able to remove him. So what do they do, they move him to the back of the room and put him down.

No, the big beefy guy carried him about 50 feet before the struggling dipshit tripped him and put HIMSELF down. They would have been plenty happy to move him all the way out the door, but they fell.

From an outsiders point of view is that officers feel entitled to use the taser as a threat: "do what I want you to do or I'll inflict pain"

No, thats *exactly* what tasers are for. Getting compliance as fast as possible. People get all sorts of fucked up in those "dog piles" by the bad guy. Bit, scratched, hair pulled, spit on, stepped on, etc etc. They're dangerous, and the cops view it as "Fuck you, I want to go home to my wife tonight, not sit in the hospital. Listen to me or I'll make you listen to me." You've disobeyed a lawful order (Put your hands behind your back) and the police have every right to force you to comply with that order.

The threat of physical harm is clearly absent, if this is a true quote then I expect we're going to see disciplinary action as a result.

This is just wrong as well. Its fairly standard for the police to be placed on leave pending an "investigation" in a politically sensitive area. They're not going to be disciplined.

Exactly. And there was clearly no threat to anyone from this kid at the point tasers were used.

Again, wrong. Bit/scratched/hairpulling/broken limbs, all of which happens all the time.

Not unless the state attorney is even dumber than I am.

Is that *that* much of a stretch?

You see this shtt all the time with campus cops, they're second-rate and half of them are short fat chicks with Napolean complex who don't have the competence to take control of situations like this and that's how we end up with these messy incidents.

No, bull shit attitudes like YOURS are the reasons we have these incidents. The cops arent real cops, the cops are pigs, fuck the cops, we dont have to respect them. Oh shit you mean they can legally taze my ass? Fucking pigs! Yawn. Grow up.

I dont give a FUCK what the laws are pertaining to disorderly conduct. america is such a police state, especially lately...

See above. Lots of people love to claim "POLICE STATE! INFRINGEMENT ON MY LIBERTIES!" but they have nothing to back that assertion up (OMG I rolled through a stopsign and that bitch ass cop gave me a WARNING! Who the fuck does he think he is?!) Fuck you dude, he gave you a break!

I guess what is just depressing to me is that the minute dissent was voiced in this environment, the knee-jerk reaction was to shut him up.

This is blatantly untrue. There was a whole lot of people asking questions that were "dissenting" and this was the only fuckwad who had problems. No knee-jerking here.

gestapo fascist bullshit.

You need to read what the gestapo *really* did, if you're trying to compare the two.



More later, back to class.