$100nl full ring Like to know how you play this.

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CO ($56.25)
Button ($100)
SB ($100.55)
BB ($67.35)
UTG ($80.20)
Hero (UTG+1) ($120.60)
MP1 ($18.50)
MP2 ($62.85)
MP3 ($23)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A, A
UTG raises to $3, Hero raises to $11, 7 folds, UTG calls $8

Flop: ($23.50) A, K, 5 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $10, UTG calls $10

Turn: ($43.50) 3 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $34, 1 fold

Total pot: $43.50 | Rake: $2.10


Stats on villian is 44 / 10 after 38 hands.

This looks pretty standard to me.

Board's too drawy to give free cards to. If he has QQ/JJ he's not putting more in anyway. KK/55/AK are the only hands that pay you off here.

You could possibly bet a bit less on turn (anything down to 1/2 pot) but I think this is fine.

i think your small flop bet and then large turn bet looks very suspicious.

$14 on flop, $30 on turn, jam river.

I usually cbet pot on flush boards, so I'd vbet pot as well because I feel flush draws can pay me off

My original thought on the flop was to try and make it look like a standard cbet. When he called I then thought either he had a hand that he could call a decent bet with or a draw, either way I wanted thought betting close to pot was the right thing. When he folded I was then thinking maybe I was being too aggressive and could of got value by checking the turn and beting the river.

Originally Posted by cardsman1992

Board's too drawy to give free cards to.

Originally Posted by iopq

I usually cbet pot on flush boards, so I'd vbet pot as well because I feel flush draws can pay me off

lul, he raised UTG and got rerasied UTG+1.

His UTG range, if he is competent/TAG, will contain something like AQ+/77+,so it contains minimal flush draws. On top of this, he now has to call a 3bet, which he should know is a strong hand as the 3bettor 3bet a UTG range, so he can't really call with any of his weak non paired hands apart from AK. So that leaves pairs within his PFR range, doubtful he has AK as we have two AA and another A and K came on the flop.

Now we've narrowed his range down to just pairs, I don't see how he can have any flush draw within his range considering the Ad is on the flop.

I would re-asses your thinking on this hand iopq.

To OP I don't mind the small flop bet, but the turn bet seems rather large in comparison. I equally don't mind checking this flop esp vs a decent player as they are likely to show up with pairs here and you can let them catch up - as there are no straight/flush draws that we should be really worried about.

Flop sucks.

not really if you think about UTG-raising ranges

perfect till you didn't bet $20 on turn.

no way am i worried about drawing hands

value town this sommabitch

Villain is 44/10, guys.

That's hardly competent/TAG, even with a small sample. Sure his range might be weighted toward pairs, but it's wider than you think, and can very well include SCs such as JTs. Don't think about what YOU would call a 3 bet with, think about what THEY might call a 3bet with.

That being said, no way I check a street.

I wanna bet flop like $20. The pot'll be so big that by the turn you could get away with checking & having a better chance of stacking the low end of his extractable range (99-QQ or Kx) on the river, or with a c/r.

Originally Posted by cardsman1992

Villain is 44/10, guys.

That's hardly competent/TAG, even with a small sample. Sure his range might be weighted toward pairs, but it's wider than you think, and can very well include SCs such as JTs. Don't think about what YOU would call a 3 bet with, think about what THEY might call a 3bet with.

That being said, no way I check a street.

apologies I did not see stats below hand. Being a donk I just bet bet bet then. This new format sucks



this image is pointless imo

don't like the new format also

Originally Posted by brian1175

My original thought on the flop was to try and make it look like a standard cbet.

I hope your standard cbet isn't less than half pot.

Originally Posted by cardsman1992

Originally Posted by brian1175

My original thought on the flop was to try and make it look like a standard cbet.

I hope your standard cbet isn't less than half pot.

in a 3bet pot mine is, what's wrong with that?

Muzzard and BankItDrew,

We appreciate your feedback on the pre-flop image. We've already made it smaller so that it doesn't dominate the screen. The placement is also an issue, it will be further down in the hand soon so that it isn't the first thing people see.

Note that this image is an optional supplement. Folks that don't like it can choose not to check the "Show Pre-flop Table Image (Stars Only)" checkbox when converting hands.

My hope is that some of the Harrington readers will find it helpful. I like the way Harrington shows hands this way in his books, it helps me visualize the position and stack size implications quicker.

Thanks,
Eric

Here is what it will look like when our programmer is done moving the image down:
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

CO ($56.25)
Button ($100)
SB ($100.55)
BB ($67.35)
UTG ($80.20)
Hero (UTG+1) ($120.60)
MP1 ($18.50)
MP2 ($62.85)
MP3 ($23)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A, A
UTG raises to $3, Hero raises to $11, 7 folds, UTG calls $8

Flop: ($23.50) A, K, 5 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $10, UTG calls $10

Turn: ($43.50) 3 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $34, 1 fold

Total pot: $43.50 | Rake: $2.10

Originally Posted by Eric

Muzzard and BankItDrew,

We appreciate your feedback on the pre-flop image. We've already made it smaller so that it doesn't dominate the screen. The placement is also an issue, it will be further down in the hand soon so that it isn't the first thing people see.

Note that this image is an optional supplement. Folks that don't like it can choose not to check the "Show Pre-flop Table Image (Stars Only)" checkbox when converting hands.

My hope is that some of the Harrington readers will find it helpful. I like the way Harrington shows hands this way in his books, it helps me visualize the position and stack size implications quicker.

Thanks,
Eric

Here is what it will look like when our programmer is done moving the image down:
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

CO ($56.25)
Button ($100)
SB ($100.55)
BB ($67.35)
UTG ($80.20)
Hero (UTG+1) ($120.60)
MP1 ($18.50)
MP2 ($62.85)
MP3 ($23)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A, A
UTG raises to $3, Hero raises to $11, 7 folds, UTG calls $8

Flop: ($23.50) A, K, 5 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $10, UTG calls $10

Turn: ($43.50) 3 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $34, 1 fold

Total pot: $43.50 | Rake: $2.10

The smaller image is better , thanks. Good that you can uncheck this option too. Some colours would be cool to esp if it blended in with the background.. and the relevant ppl in the hand where highlighted.

Also blind level above the ring and the monies in one fixed place forever player. sorta like at a table where its in a little box below each circle. Sorry to shit on ur new fangled thing... I just think it could look a whole lot better

Originally Posted by bigspenda73

Originally Posted by cardsman1992

Originally Posted by brian1175

My original thought on the flop was to try and make it look like a standard cbet.

I hope your standard cbet isn't less than half pot.

in a 3bet pot mine is, what's wrong with that?

If you aren't folding too much to pressure, and your reads are stellar, then I guess not much. However, I would like to hear your reasoning. Seems like villains can get you off that size bet with some pressure though, as long as their calling strategy is balanced against you.

brian1175,

Sorry to hijack your thread but the hand converter is one of our top priorities and this feedback is important.

Muzzard,

I'm asking our programmers about how relevant ppl in the hand can be highlighted. In this case the Hero and UTG stacks are important. I don't think we want to make them bold because that changes the size of the font. Should we mark them with grey circles? In other words, the Hero's circle is always grey but on this hand we could also make the UTG circle be grey.

We were going to move the blind level/pot size info above the table ring but it still seems to fit in the center, even with this smaller sized table image. Fixing the location of the monies is tricky cuz of all the different table possibilities (the tables are setup out differently depending on the number of active players).

Some colours would be cool to esp if it blended in with the background

When you say blended with the background I assume you mean the background of the forum post. This is complex because we use the same image for multiple forums (ftr, 2p2, ith etc). Aside from the background, what other colour changes/additions would be cool?

Thanks Again,
Eric

i think i'm only going to comment on hand histories without the image. Maybe i don't like it cos I've never read a poker book. Repetition of that sort of information seems so meh, at least it was only about half an hour of dev. time from a competent developer to build it into the convertor.

Originally Posted by will641

i think your small flop bet and then large turn bet looks very suspicious.

$14 on flop, $30 on turn, jam river.

This sounds pretty sound to me.

so you guys want to bet more on the turn than on the river when the villain is a station with a super weak range and we have top set. so much awful advice in this thread. Less preflop and less on turn, shove river. Stop overestimating the presence of draws in everyone's ranges and stop worrying about protecting against draws, particularly in 3bet pots, and you will be a lot better at poker.

Originally Posted by Muzzard

Originally Posted by cardsman1992

Board's too drawy to give free cards to.

Originally Posted by iopq

I usually cbet pot on flush boards, so I'd vbet pot as well because I feel flush draws can pay me off

lul, he raised UTG and got rerasied UTG+1.

His UTG range, if he is competent/TAG, will contain something like AQ+/77+,so it contains minimal flush draws. On top of this, he now has to call a 3bet, which he should know is a strong hand as the 3bettor 3bet a UTG range, so he can't really call with any of his weak non paired hands apart from AK. So that leaves pairs within his PFR range, doubtful he has AK as we have two AA and another A and K came on the flop.

Now we've narrowed his range down to just pairs, I don't see how he can have any flush draw within his range considering the Ad is on the flop.

I would re-asses your thinking on this hand iopq.

To OP I don't mind the small flop bet, but the turn bet seems rather large in comparison. I equally don't mind checking this flop esp vs a decent player as they are likely to show up with pairs here and you can let them catch up - as there are no straight/flush draws that we should be really worried about.

Sorry, I don't play NL100
in NL25 calling 3b with KQs is typical of the 44/11/2 people I sit with
if not Q3s