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    Default $50nl - KK against a limp/call range

    Villain is 22/5ish and kind of passive. I have multiple (3+) notes of Villain limp/calling any Ace and some random suited cards from EP and MP.

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (7 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    CO ($54.85)
    Button ($52.90)
    SB ($61.70)
    BB ($49.25)
    UTG ($50)
    MP1 ($54.90)
    Hero (MP2) ($49.25)

    Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K, K
    1 fold, MP1 calls $0.50, Hero raises to $2.50, 4 folds, MP1 calls $2

    Flop: ($5.75) 10, 2, 8 (2 players)
    MP1 bets $3, Hero raises to $11.50, MP1 calls $8.50

    Turn: ($28.75) A (2 players)
    MP1 checks, Hero checks

    River: ($28.75) Q (2 players)
    MP1 bets $12, Hero dot dot dots

    I think I'm behind his range here since I can't think of a single hand I beat besides like Jacks. Am I missing something?
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    Yeah after flop action it seems his most likely holdings are FD / Ten / overpair (or better). The river lead doesn't exactly scream "jacks" so I think it's farily likely that his FD came in, his QT hit, he got tired of slowplaying his set or some 2pr hand that beats you.
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    clubs and j9 hit so ill give it to him
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    I like every street if you fold river
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    Quote Originally Posted by daven
    I like every street if you fold river
    If I was a pirate I'd be like standAARd.
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    perfection, ofc fold
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    Quote Originally Posted by spoonitnow
    Quote Originally Posted by daven
    I like every street if you fold river
    If I was a pirate I'd be like standAARd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spoonitnow
    Quote Originally Posted by daven
    I like every street if you fold river
    If I was a pirate I'd be like standAARd.
    yep, a weak standaard game is still a winning won at 50nl/100nl
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    why not bet turn
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    Doesn't a turn bet pretty much commit us? If so, is that what we really want?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renton
    why not bet turn
    I felt like the only hands I could get anymore value out of after the Ace fell were Tx one-pair type hands and hands where he misses his draw on the river but bluffs or bets his one-pair. So instead of building a big pot on the turn when it's going to be hard for me to tell what to do on the river, I let him take all of those one-pair hands to the river. I give up some equity by letting him draw to 9+ a portion of the time, but in exchange I keep the pot small and avoid making huge mistakes on the river.

    If I bet the turn then I'm representing like an Ax hand that bluff raised the flop or a set or the occasional AT and it's going to be really easy for worse hands to fold at that point besides draws. I give up getting value out of the draws for one street for getting value out of them on the river sometimes and getting value out of other hands I beat on the river sometimes, and I think this part balances itself out. Where I feel I really gain by checking the turn is the times that he already has me beat and I get a lot of money in behind. Checking the turn avoids that while keeping my other considerations for value roughly the same.

    Okay I hope that makes sense.
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    same thought on checking the turn, blows off a lot of hands we beat, but lets draws come in cheap

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