1-2NL live, bottom set facing huge actions on the turn

the table was very dynamic. UTG2 is a huge LAGG donk raising a lot preflop, Mp2 is loose passive old guy and small blind is semi-loose and showed down good hands a whole lot.We often saw the flop like 7-8 way in raised pot. I'm not sure whether hero should bet on the flop or not, so i post this hand here.
chip stacks as follows:
UTG2: $285
Mp2: $412
SB: $375
hero: $280
Hero was UTG and limped in , UTG2 raised to $5, Mp2 reraised to $15, Butoon called, sb called, hero called, UTG2 called.
flop came like :Kh: :Jc: SB checked, Hero checked, UTG2 checked, Mp2 checked, button checked
Should hero check here or just bet on the flop in this family pot?

turn :

sb checked, hero bet $40, UTG2 raised to $80, Mp2 folded, button foldec, sb raised to $375 and all-in, hero?
Hero wanted to puke and didnt really feel happy at this point

So you are in a pot against 2 idiots and 1 (at best) ok player... we flop a monster and the board is such that we should be able to build this pot nearly 100% of the time. The best way to do that is to bet.

Were you planning to ck/r?.. that just seems awful to me. The MP2 guy reraised pre- which seems worrisome perhaps, but I don't see why we don't go to work on the flop.

The only hand that makes sense to me here that would beat you is 66.

yeah, i wanted to c/r and jam this flop cuz i thought it hit their preflop range and my relative position is good. The huge LAG donk often bet anything , lead out on flop and rarely fold his pair hand. ppl always stack off with top pair hand in live games, so my c/r doesnt really blow them off if they got anything.

Originally Posted by kingnat

So you are in a pot against 2 idiots and 1 (at best) ok player... we flop a monster and the board is such that we should be able to build this pot nearly 100% of the time. The best way to do that is to bet.

Were you planning to ck/r?.. that just seems awful to me. The MP2 guy reraised pre- which seems worrisome perhaps, but I don't see why we don't go to work on the flop.

The only hand that makes sense to me here that would beat you is 66.

The pot is already big due to the pre-flop action.

There was around ~$75 in the pot before we even saw a flop. I would stack off here.

That said, you're running against 2 players repping very strong hands. Quite often I don't think this ends out well for you.

How likely is it that you lead out on this dry flop given this situation?

Originally Posted by Fnord

The pot is already big due to the pre-flop action.

There was around ~$75 in the pot before we even saw a flop. I would stack off here.

That said, you're running against 2 players repping very strong hands. Quite often I don't think this ends out well for you.

Originally Posted by pokerfan

How likely is it that you lead out on this dry flop given this situation?

This isn't a dry flop. Soooo many hands give you action here. However, most of them will just call the flop, which is why I like the check/raise even though just betting out might be the better play.

UTG 2 maniac raised me with J8 offsuit and SB had 66 indeed. you know what? i was really thinking about sb (medicre player) raising range for a long time before i finally made my decision to stack off there. However, c/r on this action flop is normally the best in my casino experience. Casino donks/manaics/gamblers will bet and stack off light most of the time.

Originally Posted by Fnord

Originally Posted by pokerfan

How likely is it that you lead out on this dry flop given this situation?

This isn't a dry flop. Soooo many hands give you action here. However, most of them will just call the flop, which is why I like the check/raise even though just betting out might be the better play.

Yeah, two unlikely events had to happen here.

First, two PFRs and a button caller had to check this flop.
Second, someone had to suck-out on your set.

Luck in poker is a deeper, more complicated beast them just card frequencies.

c/r vs b/r really comes down to how these guys are playing and/or what their body language was after the flop. Without being there, it's hard to say.