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    Default 100NL, QQ preflop call or push ?

    I observed the table for a while and noticed that mp3 is uber LAG huge stationy donk. SB is 26/5.7/0.7 over 120 hands. Call &let big stack in the game or just shove myself ? All i was concerned about is how to maximize my equity in this spot even though sb had me crushed already. any thoughts?
    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    CO ($98.50)
    Button ($104.50)
    SB ($60)
    Hero ($100)
    UTG ($102.60)
    UTG+1 ($96.50)
    MP1 ($100)
    MP2 ($18.50)
    MP3 ($235.90)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with Q, Q.
    4 folds, MP3 calls $1, 1 fold, Button calls $1, SB raises to $6, Hero raises to $18, MP3 calls $17, Button folds, SB raises to $60, Hero ?
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    weird spot. you shoving might be more likely to get his money than you calling. I have no idea TBH.

    I'd time out and fold.
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    Fold or raise.
    Fold if you think you're behind.
    Raise if you think you're ahead.

    You need to play against MP3 from this point on.
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    If you think MP3 is such a donk that he may call if you call the 4bet from SB, then I would call. The pot will be around $223 (and you'll have about $40) and you can push any FLOP. Such a donk will be pressed to call a push with anything with those odds!

    Note: if MP3 doesn't call, the pot will be $103 and you have to call $42 where you're getting near 2.45-1 and where you need around 29% equity. If you can add AK into SB's range making it KK+,AK, then I think you have enough pot odds to even call SB's push (I don't have pokerstove here, but I think your equity against KK+,AK is > 30%).
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    yes, sir. As played, i just called and mp3 called with 97s also. He instantly called my flop shove on 9 high flop. Sb had AA but i just couldnt see a preflop fold in this spot given hefty money in the pot, seriously.
    Quote Originally Posted by jimmy44
    If you think MP3 is such a donk that he may call if you call the 4bet from SB, then I would call. The pot will be around $223 (and you'll have about $40) and you can push any FLOP. Such a donk will be pressed to call a push with anything with those odds!

    Note: if MP3 doesn't call, the pot will be $103 and you have to call $42 where you're getting near 2.45-1 and where you need around 29% equity. If you can add AK into SB's range making it KK+,AK, then I think you have enough pot odds to even call SB's push (I don't have pokerstove here, but I think your equity against KK+,AK is > 30%).
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    id usually fold
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    yeah i think i fold unless MP3 is guaranteed to call a shove and I can put AK in SBs range.
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    Folding QQ to aggression was one of the best things I ever learned. Fold pre.
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    Jesus christ, you guys are fucking nitty like this . A few hours ago, I Just stacked a 75BB guy who shoved over my JJ 3 bet in a similar situation. he fucking turned over 43 offsuit. :P
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    was the guy 0.7AF?

    wait he prbly was theyre so bad he prly thought he had the best hand
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    this nit folds cos I don't like QQ<KK/AA
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    Doesn't look good for the ladies.
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    Ya, dude is 27/5.7/.7

    Him raising out of the blinds is very strong already... I like the reraise, but it shows a TON of strength and he still wants to get it in. I think you can find a fold against THIS guy.

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