100NL vs tagreg

K this hand owned the shiz out of me and I couldnt process it due to multitabling... what to do here?
Villain is DudeTristan, an aggro reg 11/8/5.

PS it's always always ALWAYS the hands where someone can say "why not get the money in sooner?" where I run into tough spots.

PokerStars Pot-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com



CO ($21.05)
Button ($101.35)
Hero (SB) ($100)
BB ($105.55)
UTG ($113.15)
UTG+1 ($94.40)
MP1 ($169.80)
MP2 ($77.15)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 5, 5
5 folds, Button raises to $3, Hero calls $2.50, 1 fold

Flop: ($7) 4, 7, 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $5, Button raises to $15, Hero calls $10

Turn: ($37) 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $22, Button calls $22

River: ($81) 3 (2 players)

You have to be either running bad, results oriented, or suck, or a combination of the above.

PS it's always always ALWAYS the hands where someone can say "why not get the money in sooner?" where I run into tough spots.

Or it could be that you perfectly explain your problem here and never learn from it. Hint: The flop.

Originally Posted by Keilah

why not get the money in sooner?

That is all.

why does every like to donk bet with sets against nits who aren't going to be floating/bluff arising much with air???

This guy will raise with air a lot. Don't you know him?

I dont like any street in this hand (inc. PF)

Originally Posted by badgers

why does every like to donk bet with sets against nits who aren't going to be floating/bluff arising much with air???

QFMFT. It would probably be correct for villain to fold TT vs the range of hands you donk the flop with, which means you really need to re-think the ways you try to get value out of your big hands.

Hint: donking with a balanced range > never donking >>>> donking with only sets and big draws

Also I agree with bigspenda.

Originally Posted by bigspenda73

I dont like any street in this hand (inc. PF)

this

Fold or 3bet pre. As played 3-bet the flop if you are going to lead in the first place...

Originally Posted by bigspenda73

I dont like any street in this hand (inc. PF)

This.

To make this pre-flop call, you're going to have to take it away with air a fair % of the time or have some other master plan for f'ing with him.

If he's a typical table camper, then just let him have your SB and move on because he won't take it often enough to care.

I play the same way preflop and am starting to think it's a huge leak.

Definitely 3bet flop btw.

Originally Posted by BankItDrew

I play the same way preflop and am starting to think it's a huge leak.

It can't be.

Originally Posted by mcatdog

donking with a balanced range > never donking

People c-bet too much. I like to run lots of c/r and c/c lines.

Originally Posted by BankItDrew

I play the same way preflop and am starting to think it's a huge leak.

Definitely 3bet flop btw.

Yeah, it took me a long time to realise just how often I was making bad calls pre-flop in and out of position with small pocket pairs. It is so easy to over estimate implied odds... especially these days a lot of players know that over pairs aren't the nuts post-flop.

What Everyone Said
Your play by street starts out bad and gets progressively worse. On the river you need to c/f or check/soulread if villain is aggressive enough to turn an overpair into a bluff.

Originally Posted by Fnord

Originally Posted by BankItDrew

I play the same way preflop and am starting to think it's a huge leak.

It can't be.

whut

Slansky said something about implied odds being reduced oop plus if they are stealling in late position they are not likely to want to get involved in a large pot, making ur implieds even worse becuase they have so much cack in thier range.

Well, if you're calling with a PP you would need to float some flops to compensate for the fact that you don't hit enough and that you'll almost never stack him when you flop a set. Too bad floating OOP sucks fat dick.

Originally Posted by KeliSobrao

especially these days a lot of players know that over pairs aren't the nuts post-flop.

Still is the nuts for me.

Originally Posted by iopq

Well, if you're calling with a PP you would need to float some flops to compensate for the fact that you don't hit enough and that you'll almost never stack him when you flop a set. Too bad floating OOP sucks fat dick.

Amen.

Originally Posted by Fnord

Originally Posted by KeliSobrao

especially these days a lot of players know that over pairs aren't the nuts post-flop.

Still is the nuts for me.

I know, but 11/8's are basically looking for excuses to fold hands like unimproved pocket tens/jacks post-flop even on low boards... not to say they won't put in some money before they fold.