2 Live Hands Comments Wanted

B&M 1/2NL 100max - Assume full buyin for myself and villian.

I'm in MP2 with UTG+1 makes it $7, UTG+2 flat calls. I make it 30 to go. LP1 who is a gambling donkey calls, folds around and were heads up on the flop. Flop comes I lead out for $35. Villian pushes all-in and has me covered.



Hand 2 - Same Table, I'm sitting with $160 at this point. Both villians are a little shortstacked in this hand, like $80.

I'm in MP1 with UTG makes it $7, UTG+1 calls. I make it $25 to go. Folds around and both call. Flop comes Both players check and I push all-in, I have both of them covered.

So in hand 1 you got minraised? Are you really considering pitching tptk on a dry flop in a reraised pot to a donkey vs a minraise push?

Hand 2: why not make it 30 to go like you did in hand 1? push is fine, value betting twice is slightly better.

Originally Posted by nutsinho

So in hand 1 you got minraised? Are you really considering pitching tptk on a dry flop in a reraised pot to a donkey vs a minraise push?

Hand 2: why not make it 30 to go like you did in hand 1? push is fine, value betting twice is slightly better.

In hand two how do I value bet without giving the nut flush draw correct odds to chase?

Originally Posted by Margin Of Error

In hand two how do I value bet without giving the nut flush draw correct odds to chase?

~$75 pot with $135 left I'd bet $40-50 then $75-85 all in on the turn. Assuming one caller with Acxc you're giving him bad odds on chasing his overcard/flush. And a nut flush draw won't be out against you all that often. People will call the smaller bets with much worse hands.

Originally Posted by Margin Of Error

Originally Posted by nutsinho

So in hand 1 you got minraised? Are you really considering pitching tptk on a dry flop in a reraised pot to a donkey vs a minraise push?

Hand 2: why not make it 30 to go like you did in hand 1? push is fine, value betting twice is slightly better.

In hand two how do I value bet without giving the nut flush draw correct odds to chase?

pot is 75+ and they only have ~55 left, so they already have odds to chase if you push. By betting 30 twice, you might drag a middle pair along rather than push them out.

{moved to HH forum}

Hand 1: Given how those games play, I insta-call.
Hand 2: Standard

hand 1- is almost never a set since a slowplay is more likely if they do.

hand 2-yeah maybe 2 vbets is better since you arent folding and they have odds either way.

Originally Posted by Da GOAT

hand 1- is almost never a set since a slowplay is more likely if they do.

Who the fuck knows what he has. Players are way looser live and hence won't start with pairs as often and hence...

Anyway, I see AK TPTK and unless this is a very different game from all the 200NL live I've played that hand is almost always the nuts for a single buy-in until he shows me a better hand face up.

Originally Posted by Fnord

Players are way looser live and hence won't start with pairs as often and hence....

i dont understand this, isnt the guy trying to represent a v strong hand which looks like AK or trips. just dont understand the second part of above

Originally Posted by Fnord

Anyway, I see AK TPTK and unless this is a very different game from all the 200NL live I've played that hand is almost always the nuts for a single buy-in until he shows me a better hand face up.

okay im still in SNG/donk 25NL town but i would of put him on AK and not trips.

The max buyin is 50BB stacks. Hand 2 is fine... I'd prolly get a bit scared in hand 1, but considering how shallow the stacks are, I think it's ok.

Originally Posted by Da GOAT

Originally Posted by Fnord

Players are way looser live and hence won't start with pairs as often and hence....

i dont understand this, isnt the guy trying to represent a v strong hand which looks like AK or trips. just dont understand the second part of above

I think villain is pushing quite a wider range than that here, like any king or a smaller pair who believes you missed the flop completely, maybe a flush draw. The pot is like $165 and you have $35 left to call right? Impossible to fold TPTK..