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25NL - Over Pushing, Will This Stop Working?

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    Default 25NL - Over Pushing, Will This Stop Working?

    So I have the 3rd nuts and by the time we get to the river I have the villain on a high Q. I don't know if this will lose me value in the long run, but lately I've found that grossly overbetting the pot on the river is getting results. For the times I miss, I'm getting paid off huge the rest of the time.

    Hand 848145968, Started at 13/08/2006 9:50 PM
    Table 'Suva': $0.25-$0.25 No Limit HE (Real)
    Seat 0: woggerz ($29.90 in chips)
    Seat 1: ChrisCroz ($29.65 in chips)
    Seat 2: Aces9591 ($11.75 in chips)
    Seat 3: pokerminator ($7.95 in chips)
    Seat 4: yu2x ($17.35 in chips)
    Seat 5: DRout ($26.55 in chips)
    Seat 6: sitkaran ($24.75 in chips)
    Seat 7: -sparks- ($24.40 in chips)
    Seat 8: tommyJ1975 ($16.55 in chips)
    Seat 9: askulf1 ($24.95 in chips) (on the button)
    *** Blind Bet Round *** :
    Dealt to ChrisCroz: 8s
    Dealt to ChrisCroz: Qs
    woggerz : Post Blind ($0.15)
    ChrisCroz : Post Blind ($0.25)
    *** Pre-Flop *** :
    Aces9591 : Fold
    pokerminator : Call ($0.25)
    yu2x : Bet ($0.50)
    DRout : Fold
    sitkaran : Fold
    -sparks- : Fold
    tommyJ1975 : Fold
    askulf1 : Fold
    woggerz : Fold
    ChrisCroz : Call ($0.25)
    pokerminator : Call ($0.25)
    *** Flop *** : 8c 2d Qc
    ChrisCroz : Bet ($1)
    pokerminator : Fold
    yu2x : Raise ($3)
    ChrisCroz : Call ($2)
    *** Turn *** : [ 8c 2d Qc ] Qd
    ChrisCroz : Check
    yu2x : Check
    *** River *** : [ 8c 2d Qc Qd ] 10h
    ChrisCroz : Bet ($26.15)
    ChrisCroz : All In ($26.15)
    yu2x : Call ($13.85)
    yu2x : All In ($13.85)
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Pot: $47.15 | Rake: $0.50
    Board: [ 8c 2d Qc Qd 10h ]
    woggerz lost $0.15
    ChrisCroz bet $29.65, collected $47.15, net $17.50 Shows [ 8s Qs ] (a full house, Queens full of eights) Aces9591 lost $0
    pokerminator lost $0.50
    yu2x lost $17.35 Shows [ As Qh ] (three Queens)
    DRout lost $0
    sitkaran lost $0
    -sparks- lost $0
    tommyJ1975 lost $0
    askulf1 lost $0
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    You really put him on the case queen? Are you sure you're not being results-oriented?
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    id push this river bcoz u pwn any hand that had you bat on the flop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by biondino
    You really put him on the case queen? Are you sure you're not being results-oriented?
    You're right, my range for him was higher on the flop. His raise on the flop tells me he's either got the high Q or has made a set. It's a drawless board so his re-raise could just be testing me for a bluff so I just call with 2 pair, hoping to see another Q or a low card.

    Sweet, I get the Q to fill my boat and hopefull his too. I check to look weak hoping he'll bet it for me, which he doesn't *now he's getting tricky*. I don't see someone playing a low boat here like that, I guess it would happen, but I don't think it would be a good play.

    Now I think he has a high Q because all other boats are out (or at least unlikely). He's probably got me on a worse Q, but isn't worried about Q8 or QT. Maybe he's thinking KQ or QJ or nothing at all. My overbet looks like a horrible bluff at this point and he's got what he thinks is the winning hand.

    So yeah, I had him on the case Q by the time we got to the river. AQ, KQ were most likely and I didn't think it was QJ or QT, I don't see those hands re-raising on the flop.
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    how many people are going to fold in that spot anyway? I would assume most people at 25NL would re-raise all in anyway.

    If you value bet the river you might get paid by2 pair.
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    Bet the turn.
    "How could I call that bet? How could you MAKE that bet? It's poker not solitaire. " - that Gus Bronson guy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vrax
    Bet the turn.

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