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  1. #1

    Default 2nd nuts vs. FTR member's All-in

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    No Limit Holdem Ring game
    Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
    8 players
    Converter

    Stack sizes:
    UTG: $23.75
    UTG+1: $23.70
    MP1: $28.70
    MP2: $19.50
    CO: $25.50
    Hero: $193.10
    SB: $5.25
    BB: $45.50

    Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is Button with A 7
    3 folds, MP2 calls, CO folds, Hero calls, SB folds, BB checks.

    Flop: 8 3 8 ($0.85, 3 players)
    BB checks, MP2 checks, Hero checks.

    Turn: 8 ($0.85, 3 players)
    BB checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets $0.75, BB calls, MP2 folds.

    River: A ($2.35, 2 players)
    BB bets $0.75, Hero raises to $1.5, BB raises all-in $44.5, Hero folds.
    Uncalled bets: $43 returned to BB.

    Results:
    Final pot: $5.35

    Villian is 21.6/11.6/6.6 over 310 hands. We are talking on MSN. I recently had a gutshot straight flush draw and two overs which missed, and I bet 3/4 pot on river, took it down and showed. Another hand he bet/3-bet me with 2nd pair on the flop. I've been playing really loose against him too.

    He still hasn't told me a straight answer on what he had. First he said he had 33 and was pissed when the turn came, then he said he had quads and it was a good fold, then he said he had the A and it was a split. I have a feeling he was bluffing, but the pot odds was horribly bad and the rake on a split would of been huge.

    Effective stacksize was about 180BB, pot was 20BB

    What do you do?

    [Edit:] I forgot to mention AA, so i guess my hand is the 3rd nuts. At first I discounted it because of the play preflop and on the flop. But thinking about it now, I have seen him check his option in the Big Blind with AA.
  2. #2
    This is an easy fold since you can't win.
  3. #3
    I don't think I even raise the river. You're risking the pot to milk him for nothing in a small pot you figure to at least split.
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    flattin ur 4bets, makin u tilt
    correct, no reason to reopen the action unless you have a crazy history with opponent which leads you to believe there is additional value
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  5. #5
    I pulled an anchorman and immeadiately regretted my decision after the minraise.

    The main reason I folded was because it was 43 dollars, freaking 172BB. If I could detach the monitary value from the chips, I might of found a call here, and I think I would of won.
  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by ThelVlaster
    I pulled an anchorman and immeadiately regretted my decision after the minraise.
    The bets looked so much smaller just reading the hh's

    I fold too, tell him not to spend his $2.5 in one shop
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    These bears are MASSIVE!

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    let the mini pot go and get him another time - I often try to talk myself into some of these calls, only to find out they were slowplaying the entire time - Its a nothing pot and it's not worth calling, in any case -
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    working myself up to FTR fullhouse status while not giving 1 solid piece of advice
    nice job, btw - huge stack for the game of that size -
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    BB was bluffing and only checks with AA preflop heads up.

    Nice stack btw :P
  11. #11
    he has an 8
  12. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by Phantaroth
    he has an 8
    and you have the 3rd nuts.
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  13. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by ThelVlaster
    If I could detach the monitary value from the chips, I might of found a call here, and I think I would of won.
    nope
  14. #14
    Quote Originally Posted by DaNutsInYoEye
    and you have the 3rd nuts.
    Quote Originally Posted by ThelVlaster
    [Edit:] I forgot to mention AA, so i guess my hand is the 3rd nuts.
  15. #15
    Nothing calls a river raise that you beat, unless they put you on a total bluff... Raising is bad here. Just call.

    At a home game recently I had 78s with a flop of 7A7. I lead into an agg, yet 1st level, friend and he called, and I knew he had the A. Turn was a 7 and I lead again, he called. I checked the river knowing he would bet the A and wouldn't fold it, raised allin and he said he had to call. Bonzai.

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