3rd time at 50NL - comments?

OK ... third attempt at 50NL. Been at the table for just about 2 orbits.

Hand 1 - villain is 54 / 12 / 1.48 with 120 hands ... And yes I know ... fold preflop but they were sooted.

PokerRoom No-Limit Hold'em, $.50 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

MP1 ($19.60)
MP2 ($5.55)
CO ($25.05)
Button ($48.80)
Hero ($31.25)
BB ($23.05)
UTG = ($60.25)
UTG+1 ($14.00)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 4, 3.
UTG calls $0.50, 1 fold, MP1 calls $0.50, MP2 calls $0.50, 2 folds, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($3) 3, 4, 9 (5 players)
Hero bets $2, BB raises to $4, SB folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, Hero calls $2.

Figured if villain had a decent hand he would have raised it preflop so time to fire barrel #1.

Turn: ($11) 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $5, BB calls $5.

No flush on the turn ... barrel #2.

River: ($21) A (2 players)
Hero bets $21.75 (All-In), BB calls $13.55 (All-In).

What the hell ... I got 2 pair ... bombs away.

Final Pot: $56.30

Hand 2 - villain is 15 / 3 / 3.50 and as such ... not seeing a reraise preflop made me feel these 10s were goot.

Texas Hold'em $0.50NL (real money), hand #839,298,977
11 Aug 2006 10:08 PM ET

Seat 2: Celery Cheez ($34.50 in chips)
Seat 3: Bart18 ($14.70 in chips)
Seat 4: tnasty1973 ($15.10 in chips)
Seat 5: ChandraX ($25.80 in chips)
Seat 7: Hero [ ] ($20.25 in chips)
Seat 8: CanadianAmy ($23.80 in chips)
Seat 9: Villain ($38.80 in chips)
Seat 10: Ex-PFC ($74.45 in chips)

ANTES/BLINDS
Hero posts blind ($0.25), CanadianAmy posts blind ($0.50), Villain posts blind ($0.50).

PRE-FLOP
Villain checks, Ex-PFC folds, Celery Cheez calls $0.50, Bart18 calls $0.50, tnasty1973 calls $0.50, ChandraX folds, Hero bets $2.50, CanadianAmy folds, Villain calls $2.25, Celery Cheez folds, Bart18 folds, tnasty1973 folds.

FLOP [board cards ]
Hero bets $7, Villain bets $36.05 and is all-in, Hero calls $10.50 and is all-in.

Hard to believe he would call preflop with 5 6 so if he wants to bet his flush draw ... knock yourself out.

TURN [board cards ]

RIVER [board cards ]

hand 1 - i prob put shorty in too.
hand 2 - hard to get away from it since you're short and his flop raise is a bit more than a min-raise to you.

hand 1
3 bet the flop.

Shortstacking, I see?

Hand 1). pf/f/t not too bad. I'm not sure what worse hand call you on the river though. I dont like the push. Even AsTs would have a hard time calling your push. However you might be able to induce a bluff from a worse hand. I like a check on the river.

Hand 2) Your shortstack does the thinking for you. Gotta call.

Originally Posted by vqc

hand 1
3 bet the flop.

Of course, and pay off sets, weird unlikely better two pairs.

Originally Posted by TerryToma

Shortstacking, I see?

When I tried 50NL, I went in with $35 instead of $50. Mostly for defensive reasons, but also because Sklansky talks about it in his latest book (when moving up stakes). At 25NL, it's full stack full time.

Originally Posted by KingLizard

When I tried 50NL, I went in with $35 instead of $50. Mostly for defensive reasons, but also because Sklansky talks about it in his latest book (when moving up stakes). At 25NL, it's full stack full time.

I havent read the whole book, does he specifically say 70bb is the way to go when moving up?? Or did you just randomly pick it?

Originally Posted by TerryToma

Originally Posted by KingLizard

When I tried 50NL, I went in with $35 instead of $50. Mostly for defensive reasons, but also because Sklansky talks about it in his latest book (when moving up stakes). At 25NL, it's full stack full time.

I havent read the whole book, does he specifically say 70bb is the way to go when moving up?? Or did you just randomly pick it?

Check out pages 199-203 where he talks of the advantages of going in short stacked. Specifically on page 203, he sees short stacking as positive when moving up stakes. As for the amount, I just pulled that outta my ass.

Haven't read the book (yet), but I believe he's talking about when moving up to stakes where people are aggressive/tough enough to raise a much wider range preflop than at these levels. With a short stack villain won't be able to push you off hands postflop because you commit yourself preflop, so his advantage in being able to play any two diminishes significantly.

I wish I could pull 70BBs out of my ass too

Originally Posted by HalvSame

I wish I could pull 70BBs out of my ass too

Not hard to do if you have enough alcohol in your system. Using a hunting dog to find your ass at this point helps too.

For some reason I was thinking 50bb would be better..

Originally Posted by TerryToma

For some reason I was thinking 50bb would be better..

I agree. I think more just puts you in no mans land. 40bb might even be better.

I was thinking though, maybe pick something random so you look like a dumbass playing with your last 22.45 or something. Then, when you re-raise pre-flop, the big stacks will probably put you all in with out having a whole lot.