Quote Originally Posted by jimmy44
Hand 1: If UTG was not in the hand I might push. However, as BB is raising you 2.5x you c-bet with UTG still too act, I fold, he his representing a too strong hand.
I didn't really think about BB not even caring that UTG is behind him. Hmm. I still think pushing is the worst option with or without UTG in the hand, but it may just be fold > call > push now. I'm still not sure.

Quote Originally Posted by d0zer
I've always played drawey flops very aggressively to 'not let him draw for free'
dozer, remember that you don't have to be the one betting to "make them pay to draw." if villain is betting into you or raising he is being charged already. for example, if villain leads at you for pot on the flop and you just call, he is paying the same amount of money as he would have if he checked and called a psb. you don't have to raise his psb to "charge" him.