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ACES... CALL OR FOLD HERE???

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    Default ACES... CALL OR FOLD HERE???

    PokerStars Game #2311903619: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2005/08/11 - 00:53:21 (ET)
    Table 'Hesperia IV' Seat #1 is the button
    Seat 1: chapelizod ($67 in chips)
    Seat 2: mcmullin3 ($99.35 in chips)
    Seat 3: SXICHIN ($47.55 in chips)
    Seat 4: SrBocce ($28.15 in chips)
    Seat 5: akslcv ($97.50 in chips)
    Seat 6: nazz5000 ($187.30 in chips)
    Seat 7: justtocol ($91.50 in chips)
    Seat 8: mfreenet7 ($56.10 in chips)
    Seat 9: PokerPanda ($112.45 in chips)
    mcmullin3: posts small blind $0.50
    SXICHIN: posts big blind $1
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to justtocol [Ac As]
    SrBocce: calls $1
    akslcv: folds
    nazz5000: folds
    justtocol: raises $3 to $4
    mfreenet7: folds
    PokerPanda: folds
    chapelizod: folds
    mcmullin3: folds
    SXICHIN: calls $3
    SrBocce: calls $3
    *** FLOP *** [5d 8c 6c]
    SXICHIN: checks
    SrBocce: checks
    justtocol: bets $7
    SXICHIN: calls $7
    SrBocce: raises $17.15 to $24.15 and is all-in
    justtocol: calls $17.15
    SXICHIN: calls $17.15
    *** TURN *** [5d 8c 6c] [9d]
    SXICHIN: checks
    justtocol: checks
    *** RIVER *** [5d 8c 6c 9d] [Kh]
    SXICHIN: bets $19.40 and is all-in
    justtocol: ?????

    What would you do and why?
  2. #2
    I wouldn't have called the first all in. You're beat by either a straight, or 2 pair, possible trips. One of them could have been on a flush draw, maybe even both of them, but it's not worth the money. If you won this hand, you must have had great reads on these people.
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  3. #3
    You gotta call. It's a $65 dollar pot, and he's asking for $20 more. The probability of the first guy straightening diminishes the chance that the remaining opponent has one too. It's a tough one.
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  4. #4

    Default Re: ACES... CALL OR FOLD HERE???

    Quote Originally Posted by Scotter

    *** FLOP *** [5d 8c 6c]
    SXICHIN: checks
    SrBocce: checks
    justtocol: bets $7
    SXICHIN: calls $7
    SrBocce: raises $17.15 to $24.15 and is all-in
    justtocol: calls $17.15
    SXICHIN: calls $17.15
    Right here, I would not flat call the all-in. That just invites SXICHIN to call as well. Either you're beat already, or SXICHIN is drawing. There is no card that is going to help you on the turn or the river (except for an Ace). Make it as expensive as possible for draws. Punish them for playing draws.

    Conversely, if you think you are beat here, then fold. But IMHO,you want unimproved Aces headsup, not multiway!! Fold or push are your two choices.
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    sxchin has 20 bucks left, put him all-in on the flop. i'm not even hesitating on this one.
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  6. #6
    I put sexichin on top pair when he called the all also. He was a loose player. When the king hit on the river and he instantly went all in I was almost certain he had two pair. So I laid the aces down. He turned up KQc and won the pot with a pair of kings. Oh well.
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    you had him on king 8? a word of advice for the future: never put someone on king 8.

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