AK hand

Stakes .05/.1 NL full ring

No read on opp.
Dealt to Hero Ah,Ks in SB

PF betting:
4 folds, CO raises to .2, Button calls, Hero raises to .5, BB folds, CO calls, Button calls

Flop: 7c9s5c
Hero bets .8, CO folds, Button calls

Turn: 7d
Hero bets 1.5, Button raises to 3
Hero? Do you believe he has something. I know I could certainly throw out a check raise on a scare card in his position. I don't put him on a 7,9 or 5. Do you?

Your move?

There's a lot of hands he could have.

At this point you're getting 5:1 from the pot. You have no draw, and two overcards. Whatever he has, it's probably better than ace high. I would look at it as if he has a pair of nines or an overpair in the hole (tens or jacks), and play it accordingly, discounting implied odds entirely - because even if you catch an ace or king you don't know for sure you are ahead, and you don't know if you can get much more money out of him. This is a grey area but I probably fold just based on the pot odds, which are slightly unfavorable even if all six of your outs are clean.

Option 2 is to proceed as if you have an overpair and keep firing away. I hate doing this without a read on my opponent, and I hate doing it out of position. On this hand I don't think I'd bother.

Originally Posted by EricE

Do you believe he has something? I know I could certainly throw out a check raise on a scare card in his position. I don't put him on a 7,9 or 5. Do you?

Why wouldn't you put him on these cards? I'm not saying he should be. I'm just saying why wouldn't you? Does he only play broadways and pairs for raises? Even then you may be behind. Is he loose passive? That would increase the chance you're behind. You need to consider all the information. You can't just NOT put people on rags generally speaking, if that's what you're doing.

Originally Posted by Rondavu

Originally Posted by EricE

Do you believe he has something? I know I could certainly throw out a check raise on a scare card in his position. I don't put him on a 7,9 or 5. Do you?

Why wouldn't you put him on these cards? I'm not saying he should be. I'm just saying why wouldn't you? Does he only play broadways and pairs for raises? Even then you may be behind. Is he loose passive? That would increase the chance you're behind. You need to consider all the information. You can't just NOT put people on rags generally speaking, if that's what you're doing.

Good point. This is a classic case of not believing a raise and also illustrating the dangers of getting AK struck. At the time, I didn’t even slow down and consider the raise when it came in. Very stupid of me. I happily called and gave him the rest on the river. This post is my punishment for being such an idiot. Hehe.

He held 76o

he could easily have something like 89 suited