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  1. #1

    Default AK whiffed flop vs. nit

    Wow every post I make includes the phrase vs. a nit. This one is particularly bad at 9/2/0.6 with 9 attempt steal. How's this?

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    CO ($30)
    Button ($55.10)
    SB ($51.45)
    BB ($54.40)
    UTG ($20.20)
    Hero ($51.50)
    MP1 ($30)
    MP2 ($52.75)
    MP3 ($50)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A, K. CO posts a blind of $0.50.
    1 fold, Hero raises to $2.5, 5 folds, SB calls $2.25, 1 fold.

    Flop: ($6) 4, 4, 4 (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero checks.

    Turn: ($6) 2 (2 players)
    SB bets $4, Hero raises to $14......
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    I bet the flop most of the time here expecting to get called a lot by worse hands. As played, I think I raise to $16. I don't see what his attempt to steal has to do with this spot. Isn't that based on how often he open raises from the CO and BTN?
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  3. #3
    Just bet the flop why the hell are you getting tricky? There are tons of great double barrel cards that you can fire on the turn.
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    He's folding almost none of his range on that flop imo. Unless I fire with the intention of double barrelling almost every turn betting the flop is bad. This folds out probs everything in his range apart from 22/44/maybe TT, or at least that was the logic behind this move.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unibomber14
    I bet the flop most of the time here expecting to get called a lot by worse hands. As played, I think I raise to $16. I don't see what his attempt to steal has to do with this spot. Isn't that based on how often he open raises from the CO and BTN?
    He's 9/2, there are no worse hands in his range. I just put in attempt to steal because it shows he has some positional awareness and a nit calling a UTG+1 raise when he has some positional awareness tells me a lot about his range.
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  6. #6
    Fold to the nit's bet. You have good data here, use it.

    Also, I think you're under-estimating your fold equity to a c-bet.
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    your play screams AK
    bet flop
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    OK some ranges.

    I could have ~ AJ+, 55+ preflop, possibly wider because of the poster so my play doesn't scream AK it screams AJ+ but I dout he can hand read and he's playing about 16 tables.

    Villain's call tells me he has AK,22-TT (JJ). I think on the flop I could fold out some of the very bottom of his range with a standard cbet, something like 22-55/AK. Close to 100% of villains range is betting the turn imo, but he has to fold all but TTish to a raise.

    All those saying bet flop is that with the intention of double barrelling?

    Where am I going wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by badgers
    He's folding almost none of his range on that flop imo. Unless I fire with the intention of double barrelling almost every turn betting the flop is bad. This folds out probs everything in his range apart from 22/44/maybe TT, or at least that was the logic behind this move.
    Wheeee what a donk 22<33 here and 44 is impossible.
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    I think you have a lot of fold equity on the flop against 22-99. Fail that, he probably flats most of his range allowing you to take 2 cards off quite often.

    I would bet the flop and make it the last money I put into the pot unless I'm calling a river bet with a turned/rivered Ace or King.
  10. #10
    You have seven outs to the nuts; your equity is enormous. Bet these flops with AK 100%.
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    Do you really think this guys folds 22-99 with a c-bet? I don't think he folds any PP here ... at least on flop.
    As played on the turn (opp being so passive) you cannot raise his 2/3 bet on turn, his showing you he has a good pair.
  12. #12
    Hero raised 5xBB from UTG+1, of course 22-99 will frequently fold to a c-bet. If this was a 3xBB button raise, things change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fnord
    I would bet the flop and make it the last money I put into the pot unless I'm calling a river bet with a turned/rivered Ace or King.
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    Quote Originally Posted by martindcx1e
    Quote Originally Posted by Fnord
    I would bet the flop and make it the last money I put into the pot unless I'm calling a river bet with a turned/rivered Ace or King.
    this
    This. Except replace the word 'calling' with betting or raising.
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    isn't check/calling going to get you paid by worse more if you river an ace or king?
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    Quote Originally Posted by reprisal
    isn't check/calling going to get you paid by worse more if you river an ace or king?
    I find that most players would rather call or check than bluff in that spot.
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    I like a cbet too and agree with Fnord. if he does anything he tells you what hand he has.


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  18. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by reprisal
    isn't check/calling going to get you paid by worse more if you river an ace or king?
    In position so doesn't matter much anyway
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    Quote Originally Posted by HybridTt
    Your thinking is that u want to check the flop to induce a bluff so that when he bets the turn he will have a wider range right?? Then why do u re raise the turn lol?
    Ir wasn't to induce a bluff it was to induce a vbet that would fold to a raise. I guess I underestimated the equity AK has on that flop and I don't need to turn it into a bluff but against this opp I honestly thought I had very little FE on that flop. Perhaps I had more than I thought as he is an uber-nit who probs has a no set no bet mentality almost regardless of flop texture.
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