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    Default Am I nuts for folding this?

    v is 24/1/2 over 100 hands

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

    Hero ($29)
    MP2 ($23.65)
    CO ($35.35)
    Button ($27.75)
    SB ($25)
    BB ($25)
    UTG ($33.50)
    UTG+1 ($15.75)

    Preflop: Hero is MP1 with , .
    1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1, 1 fold, CO raises to $3.75, 3 folds, UTG+1 folds, Hero folds.

    Final Pot: $2.60

    Results in white below:
    No showdown. CO wins $2.60.


    I figure the worst hand he has is AK. We're both pretty deep and this is a nightmare after the flop. Is 100 hands enough to give the guy this much credit?
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    wow, I woulda at least called this bet. Hit your Queen and Profit!
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    I swear I'm not really this much of a nit, I'm running 18.6/15.7/4 over 4k hands at 25nl so far.

    The thing is, I'm oop and I really don't know whether this is AA, KK, QQ, or AK. AK is the most likely, but it doesn't pay off on a Q-high board.
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    Let me explain, First I woulda raised preflop to a little more. maybe 1.50, Then you need to put your Villain on a range. I would call the reraise, as he is in the CO, This is a good spot for someone to reraise. Since I put the villain on a range of hands, when the flop comes out you will be have a Plan as to how you are playing your hand.
    If an Ace or King comes out, you can C-bet the flop, if Villain plays back, then you may need to re-evaluate, depending on the condition of the board.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrhappy333
    Let me explain, First I woulda raised preflop to a little more. maybe 1.50, Then you need to put your Villain on a range. I would call the reraise, as he is in the CO, This is a good spot for someone to reraise. Since I put the villain on a range of hands, when the flop comes out you will be have a Plan as to how you are playing your hand.
    If an Ace or King comes out, you can C-bet the flop, if Villain plays back, then you may need to re-evaluate, depending on the condition of the board.
    My anger management counselor would advise me not to comment on this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrhappy333
    I would call the reraise, as he is in the CO, This is a good spot for someone to reraise.
    This villain raises 1% of hands over a sample of 100, this is quite clearly going to be QQ+ or AK. It's probably a good fold. I probably do call and see a flop but I'm check folding anything but a Q.
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    fold/call are both fine. when i decide to call his preflop 3 bet, i might call one street bet on undercard flop also. Fold to his double barrel if any.
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    id call and sethunt. I think its close though. check/fold if the flop comes 852
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    Quote Originally Posted by dev
    Quote Originally Posted by mrhappy333
    Let me explain, First I woulda raised preflop to a little more. maybe 1.50, Then you need to put your Villain on a range. I would call the reraise, as he is in the CO, This is a good spot for someone to reraise. Since I put the villain on a range of hands, when the flop comes out you will be have a Plan as to how you are playing your hand.
    If an Ace or King comes out, you can C-bet the flop, if Villain plays back, then you may need to re-evaluate, depending on the condition of the board.
    My anger management counselor would advise me not to comment on this.
    this was supposed to be back to back with my first post, I didnt read your second post till after.
    sorry
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    Yeah, Your nuts.
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    his range is AA/KK.
    Either call and set-hunt or fold. Stack sizes suggest it's a close call, either is fine.
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    A short buy who played 24 hands, raised 1 out of 100 and open limped you want to fold Queens against? This is at least a call.

    Don't fold good hands to people who have a bizare approach to poker unless you understand them better than the information given. If they can't put together a reasonable pre-flop approach, then god knows what he could have here.
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    I think you misunderstood the hand, Fnord.

    The 3-better is behind me in the CO. The CO and I are both deep.
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    You have to call and sethunt only.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmy44
    You have to call and sethunt only.
    And if he doesn't stack off with AA or KK on a Q-high board?
    With this size sample set, I know he is tight pre, but I haven't seen him on the flop very much.
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    Tight raiser, value raise, he has position. Yeah, I'd fold here.

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