Quote Originally Posted by chuckg
This may just be my opinion beacuse I know what bot of you had, but if I was just an observer watching this hand play out live, I would have guessed you guys had either a str8 or flush, so that J on the river had no bearing on the hand. IMO if he bet on the turn, he would of called your AI on the river since he had a 3:1 chip advantage, and obviously was having some luck at the table (+$70).

Is that not a good way to think?
I don't think the chip advantage comes into play so much in a ring game. My main concern was not looking too much like I had slowplayed a flush. If he has a high flush he'll call any bet there and I don't need to worry - in fact he'll raise me, which makes me quite happy; but if he hit that gutshot straight (which is what happened), and he believes I slowplayed a flush on the turn, he'll fold. So the bet I'm trying to find there is the maximum amount he'll call out of curiosity. Any smart player realizes they're probably beat when I flat-call the turn and then lead out on the river, but the question is how much he's willing to pay for the small chance that I'm bluffing. If I hammer the all-in, he'll be more likely to think I'm bluffing, but less willing to pay for it if he thinks I'm probably not. Make sense?