Anyway to get away from this?

This was an ugly one. The turn made it impossible to fold this for me. Should I just of called instead of push or do you pay this all the time?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Button ($131.05)
SB ($59.45)
Hero ($95.35)
UTG ($57.60)
UTG+1 ($46.50)
MP1 ($56.03)
MP2 ($57.60)
MP3 ($41)
CO ($0)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K, 8. SB posts a blind of $0.25. MP3 posts a blind of $0.50.
UTG calls $0.50, 1 fold, MP1 calls $0.50, MP2 calls $0.50, MP3 (poster) checks, Button calls $0.50, SB (poster) completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($3.50) K, Q, 8 (8 players)
SB bets $2.5, Hero raises to $6, UTG folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, Button folds, SB raises to $17, Hero calls $11.

Turn: ($37.50) K (3 players)
SB bets $20, Hero calls $77.85 (All-In), SB calls $21.95 (All-In).

River: ($157.30) 5 (3 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: $157.30

So he either had KQ or QQ. Pay him off.

QQ are no good so the only hand beating you is KQ. Play for stacks.

Turn is an easy push. He's obviously pot-committed, so he's calling with any kind of made hand or draw. Sure you can call, but in the rare case he is a super-lag with JT, you don't get his last $20 on the river if he misses. On the flop I would really consider folding to the 3-bet, although this depends heavily on reads. What hand 3-bets you here that you beat? Q8 is about the only one I can possibly think of, and even that is not very likely. Put it this way. Once he 3-bets you on the flop, you know you're most likely playing for stacks here. Are you willing to stack off with top and bottom pair in an unraised pot?

Originally Posted by bdawg56kg

Turn is an easy push. He's obviously pot-committed, so he's calling with any kind of made hand or draw. Sure you can call, but in the rare case he is a super-lag with JT, you don't get his last $20 on the river if he misses. On the flop I would really consider folding to the 3-bet, although this depends heavily on reads. What hand 3-bets you here that you beat? Q8 is about the only one I can possibly think of, and even that is not very likely. Put it this way. Once he 3-bets you on the flop, you know you're most likely playing for stacks here. Are you willing to stack off with top and bottom pair in an unraised pot?

The flop 3-bet is where I was pondering this hand. I dunno, the guy was pushing lots of people around. I figured he was trying to bully top pair, so I called. Most of the time I'm folding to the three bet unless I've seen the guy play before and know.

I'm pretty sure a big bet on the turn with no K or 8 is gonna get me to fold this. The K sealed my fate though as I can't see myself folding this. Ya, he had KQ. Only hand that could of beat me.

Originally Posted by Strung

I'm pretty sure a big bet on the turn with no K or 8 is gonna get me to fold this.

Tough break running into the nuts. I can't really blame you for taking a stand against the table bully, but the above quote is a very big leak. You have at most 4 outs to improve, so it's not like you're drawing to any kind of hand. If you were going to fold to a big turn bet, then just fold to the flop 3-bet. What do you think he's gonna do on the turn? Check? Bet 1/5 pot? Like I said in my previous post, once he 3-bets the flop like that, you pretty much know you are playing for stacks if you decide to continue. So looking back, I like either pushing over the 3-bet if villain is a super lag, or just calling in hopes of him overplaying a crappy hand or to keep him bluffing into you, or of course folding.