Bottom Pair Improvement?

Multiway pot (actually the first flop with more than 3 callers I'd seen since I joined the table an orbit earlier). I play a suited A for the flush on the button. End up flopping bottom pair. It's checked to me, I bet, most call...you can read the rest. What's your play on the river? Why?

GAME #846605824 - (BLINDS $1/$2) NO LIMIT TEXAS HOLD'EM - 2005/05/30-20:19:41.9 (CST)
Table "Lalona" (real money) -- Seat 5 is the button
Seat 1: mkking ($207.00 in chips)
Seat 2: NoLoafing ($204.00 in chips)
Seat 3: lexbo ($240.25 in chips)
Seat 4: LuckyBird ($255.25 in chips)
Seat 5: JGB146para ($82.00 in chips)
Seat 6: _OCCUPANT_ ($274.25 in chips)
Seat 7: mushman20 ($70.75 in chips)
Seat 8: DodgerFan ($229.25 in chips)
Seat 9: TexMac1011 ($171.50 in chips)
Seat 10: gruvy ($437.00 in chips)
_OCCUPANT_: Post Small Blind ($1)
mushman20: Post Big Blind ($2)
Dealing...
Dealt to JGB146para [ Ad ]
Dealt to JGB146para [ 6d ]
DodgerFan: Fold
TexMac1011: Fold
gruvy : Call ($2)
mkking : Fold
NoLoafing: Fold
lexbo : Call ($2)
LuckyBird: Call ($2)
JGB146para: Call ($2)
_OCCUPANT_: Call ($1)
mushman20: Check
*** FLOP *** : [ 6c 9c Jh ]
_OCCUPANT_: Check
mushman20: Check
gruvy : Check
lexbo : Check
LuckyBird: Check
JGB146para: Bet ($7)
_OCCUPANT_: Call ($7)
mushman20: Fold
gruvy : Call ($7)
lexbo : Call ($7)
LuckyBird: Call ($7)
*** TURN *** : [ 6c 9c Jh ] [ Ah ]
_OCCUPANT_: Check
gruvy : Check
lexbo : Check
LuckyBird: Check
JGB146para: Bet ($22)
_OCCUPANT_: Fold
gruvy : Fold
lexbo : Fold
LuckyBird: Call ($22)
*** RIVER *** : [ 6c 9c Jh Ah ] [ 3c ]
LuckyBird: Check
JGB146para: ?

I'm going all in here - which is about a pot sized bet.

The average schmo player is getting excited and betting out the river huge if he has hit the flush. It is more plausible to put him on a KJ or a QT here (maybe even an 87).

The reason I'm going all in and not checking behind and showing down my better hand is because if he does have the KJ, he could well make some sort of idiotic decision that you are bluffing and call you.

I also feel that if he had hit a higher 2 pair than you on the turn, he would most certainly be raising.

I'm really liking my hand here though, after the river check, I don't see the flush draw as a threat and am immediately thinking OESD or jack and g00t kicker.

I always check these situations. Maybe that's a bad thing, but I just think you barely ever get called with a worse hand here.

Originally Posted by FishMagician

I always check these situations. Maybe that's a bad thing, but I just think you barely ever get called with a worse hand here.

I often check here too. Unless I feel the opponent will call weak.

-'rilla

Fold. That board is just too scary.

Really, I would check behind and be happy to win what's there just in case he was looking to c/r with the flush he caught by chasing with poor odds. His cold-calls make him look like a flush chaser to me.

I think he'd bet his flush so that 3 on the river could not have made him a better hand than yours (unless of course he was calling you with 33 heh) so I would make a value bet not go all-in. Sth that he can call with a Jack/good kicker maybe. Actually the most likely hand I would put him on would be 2 hearts with a 9. He called looking to improve (after all you bet on the button after everyone checked to you you might even have nothing) and picked up the flush draw on the turn.

I'll check. It's likely you just have a passive plr who paired the A out of AK. But just in case she caught her set earlier and was slowplaying
I would opt for caution here.

I bet, about the same amount; they folded. I think I agree that checking behind is the smarter play.

Yeah, probably check. Even though you probably have the best hand, the third flush card has probably made your opponent's calling standards on the river much stricter. He isn't likely to call you with a hand beaten by aces up. Also, this obviously hedges against losing more to a flush.

So you bet another $22. What would you have done if he raised you all-in?

I think checking is the safest move, especially if you think he'd chase the flush against all odds (but I'm guessing you didn't have that feeling).

i dont think this situation called for a value raise.

he could have been slow playing a set or chasing a flush.

Originally Posted by khabbi

So you bet another $22. What would you have done if he raised you all-in?

I think checking is the safest move, especially if you think he'd chase the flush against all odds (but I'm guessing you didn't have that feeling).

I had the feeling that I absolutely had him beat. Just a feeling; nothing more that I can say to ID it. If he had pushed, I don't know what I'd have done. I'm not sure I knew then, or even considered the possibility (which is bad, and is why I should have checked behind).