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    Default Calling station ranges

    Ok, so the table itself is absurdly taggy. This V was calling a lot, everyone else raised or folded everything. Button was a reg, 9/6/1, so I was ready to just give up if he ever woke up.

    V is 60/15/3, only over 35 hands, but it's enough to say he's loose.

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    SB ($17.10)
    BB ($14.35)
    UTG ($13.30)
    UTG+1 ($27.20)
    MP1 ($24.60)
    MP2 ($80.55)
    Hero ($28.50)
    Button ($29.35)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with 8, 9.
    4 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, 2 folds, BB calls $0.50.

    Flop: ($1.60) 4, 2, 6 (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $1, BB calls $1.

    Turn: ($3.60) T (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $2.75, BB folds.

    Final Pot: $3.60

    Here's the issue:
    V's calling range preflop is huge, his calling range on the flop I don't think changes too much here. Since I had seen him fold on later streets before, I figure I have some FE. My question is how much FE? Without a sample set, all we have to work with is a stereotype, this guy is a calling station. This is such a common situation at this limit. Even playing during the day, I rarely have a decent sample set on more than 2 players at a given table.

    So to find out if a c-bet is good here, we need his calling range, his folding range, and his raising range.

    Calling range:
    66,44,22,ATs,KTs,QTs,JTs,T9s,ATo,KTo,QTo,JTo,T9o
    (7.4% of total hands, we have 22%EQ)

    folding range:
    AJs,A9s-A2s,KJs+,K9s-K8s,QJs,97s+,87s,76s,AJo+,A9o-A2o,KJo+,K9o,QJo,J9o,97o+,87o (22% of total hands)

    raising range:
    I have no idea, but we're folding if he does.

    So we'll say he raises 10% of the time and if he does, we forfeit all equity by folding.

    -starts math-
    -stops math-

    I stopped halfway thru the math because if my ranges are correct than this bet is super +++++EV. At the time I made it I thought it was a really unique situation. I was going based on a non-stat-based read. He folded on the turn before, he folded on the river before. He was loose. The more I look at it I get into these situations fairly often. How often can you expect a guy like this to fold to a second or third barrel? At what point can we say it's better to take the free card for a str8. We have a hand that's beat by anything and everything if we blank the river, so we're not playing for a call-down, we're playing for a fold. With a hand so weak we either completely give up on it or we try to bluff here and then make the same decision again on the river.
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    I can't be bothered to read your post fully because after I looked at the hand and the title it does not make sense.

    We dont need to bluff callign stsations ever, becasue when we do hit a hand we take them to valuetown.
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    dont bluff loose stations in lower stake games. However, it's an excellent spot to double barrel against standard players. Usually, if tightish players still call my turn bet, i shove his ass on the river, which works like a charm.

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