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    Default combo draw, turn play

    so, poker has been kicking my ass lately. So, I am really starting to question pretty well my whole game, and as such will be posting some fairly basic stuff for review.

    1/2 PL table. haven't been at the table long, but in a short while there opp seems kinda bad. I raise because I have a decent hand and there is a lot of dead money in the pot.

    I expect opp to have some sort of J or medium pair that doesn't want to fold to a single bet, but will to 2 barrels.

    The question here concerns the turn play. Is it better to check it behind with all these outs, but only 1 card to come, or do I try to push out those medium strength hands by betting again.

    PokerStars Pot-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    MP2 ($116.65)
    CO ($200)
    Button ($107)
    SB ($123.80)
    BB ($143.60)
    UTG ($277.30)
    UTG+1 ($165)
    Hero (MP1) ($199)

    Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 10, A
    UTG calls $2, 1 fold, Hero raises to $10, 4 folds, BB calls $8, 1 fold

    Flop: ($25) K, 3, J (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $19, BB calls $19

    Turn: ($63) 2 (2 players)
    BB checks, Her0...
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    More info on villain plz. A shitton of the droolers will call you down with any king and most jacks.
    Decision seems close so why not just mix up your play? Flip a coin.
    OTOH betting here makes you harder to play against and sets you up to stack him if you hit, so I'd probably bet 70%, check 30%. (Read dependant)

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    not a whole lot more info to give. didn't have a hud running, and hadn't been there for long. don't recognize the name so that says a little something. Seemed to like to see flops in the orbit or two since he sat.
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    i'd double barrel here a whole lot on the turn when the implied odds are bad(short stack, timid opps, obvious draws,etc.). Otherwise, i prefer to check behind in case he c/r bomb.
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    awkward stacks, I check behind because we have to fold to a c/r
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    Quote Originally Posted by badgers
    awkward stacks, I check behind because we have to fold to a c/r
    What? No.

    $63 in pot
    Villain has 114.60

    We bet $45
    Villain shoves

    $221.60 now in pot
    We need to call $69.60

    That's slightly better than 3:1 and we're around 25% to win against all non-bluffs, so it's an easy call.

    Bet $50 instead of $45 and it's even easier.
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    sorry you're right, for some reason i assumed villain had his starting stack behind on the turn... tbh I don't know what my default move is here, I think it's very close but bet/call is probs best actually.
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    afaik from an optimal frequency standpoint, bet some of your flush draws. this is one you dont really wanna bet.
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    I bet/called the push, and villain showed up with a JT???? I was sure that he would fold his less than Kx hands to a second barrel, but apparently was wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keilah
    More info on villain plz. A shitton of the droolers will call you down with any king and most jacks.
    Like I said

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