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  1. #1

    Default Difficult decision

    ***** Hand History for Game 2856995506 *****
    $25 NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, October 10, 17:44:26 EDT 2005
    Table Table 64959 (Real Money)
    Seat 7 is the button
    Total number of players : 10
    Seat 1: ngaikido ( $37.50 )
    Seat 2: xxJTOxx ( $31.32 )
    Seat 3: scorpion403 ( $74.91 )
    Seat 4: Gordon68111 ( $31.65 )
    Seat 5: jride000 ( $13.36 )
    Seat 7: TAILBOOM_439 ( $22.10 )
    Seat 8: KAM_23 ( $21.60 )
    Seat 9: OACSQUASH ( $19.50 )
    Seat 10: champsboss ( $27.15 )
    Seat 6: aulbamatic1 ( $16.77 )
    KAM_23 posts small blind [$0.10].
    OACSQUASH posts big blind [$0.25].
    aulbamatic1 posts big blind [$0.25].
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to Gordon68111 [ Ad Ac ]
    >You have options at Speed Tournament $1,000 Added(484697) Table #187 Table!.
    champsboss calls [$0.25].
    >You have options at Speed Tournament $1,000 Added(484697) Table #187 Table!.
    >You have options at Speed Tournament $1,000 Added(484697) Table #187 Table!.
    ngaikido folds.
    xxJTOxx folds.
    scorpion403 folds.
    Gordon68111 raises [$2].
    jride000 folds.
    >You have options at Table 66055 Table!.
    aulbamatic1 folds.
    TAILBOOM_439 folds.
    KAM_23 folds.
    OACSQUASH folds.
    champsboss calls [$1.75].
    ** Dealing Flop ** [ 5h, Qd, 3h ]
    champsboss checks.
    Gordon68111 bets [$3].
    champsboss calls [$3].
    ** Dealing Turn ** [ Qs ]
    champsboss bets [$4].
    Gordon68111 calls [$4].
    ** Dealing River ** [ Qh ]
    champsboss is all-In [$18.15]
    >You have options at Speed Tournament $1,000 Added(484697) Table #187 Table!.
    Gordon68111 folds.
    champsboss does not show cards.
    champsboss wins $35.85

    would you call here?
  2. #2
    very close here, but I think I would call here. 1 card in the deck that can beat us. And with your pre-flop raise, anyone holding Q3, Q6, etc would fold.

    He would have to have the Q, and have to have another card making his hand playable pre-flop. Also, his flop/turn action confuse me. I think AQ would have raised the flop, not check/called. I'm also sceptical that AQ would have lead out on the turn, with the action you've given him, he'd probably feel safe with his hand.

    I think I just talked myself into calling.
    I don't know what they have to say
    It makes no difference anyway.
    Whatever it is...
    I'm against it.
  3. #3

    Default hmm

    it seems tougher than usually .. if he had a queen off the flop he checked top pair with the flush draw.. and ended up catch quads .. if he had the flush draw it seems more sensible on the turn cuz that second queen could scare ur A's .. the 3rd queen seems like a helper to u.. he he hit his flush u hit ur top boat on the board... personally with all things considered i would say call .. but that is leavin the fact that is online poker and he could have the quads... the only other thing i could think of is he had pocket 5's or 3's off the flop.. which then still u hvae the best hand .. but decent lay down can't fault u for it .. its a scary board
  4. #4
    i don't think this is difficult. it's an overbet and there's only a 1 in 3 chance he wants a call.

    You river the mortal nuts. What do you do? Bet something callable/raisable! Opp didn't do this, so opp doesn't have the nuts. You have the next best thing, and should call every time, if only for the size of the pot. That's an $18 bet into an $18 pot. You only have to be right half the time, and I think you're right 4/5 times.
  5. #5
    You pay quads off here. It's not even close. Fold was weak.
    It's not what's inside that counts. Have you seen what's inside?
    Internal organs. And they're getting uglier by the minute.
  6. #6
    I'll tell you what bothers me.
    That lead out on the turn puzzles me. Why check-call the flop and lead the turn. If the turn Q helped he already had trips or TP, he would have check-raised the flop.
    If he had the 33 or 55 he played himself out of his own money.
    If he has the queen, I pay him off anyway.
    Playing live . . . thanks alot Bin Laden.
  7. #7
    It would be a difficult decision if the river was anything but a Q or A. Up until the river it looks like he's holding the queen, once he pushes he's basically saying "I don't have it...but i don't think you do either!" and you let him get away with it. If the stacks were like 5x deeper and he had pushed i would consider a fold.
  8. #8
    instacall
  9. #9
    INSTANT CALL..wow he calls you down only to push on that river...what could he have? a 5... or 2 hearts...only 2 hands i can see him having there...he raises the turn if hes got the queen...and DEFINETLY doesnt open push with a queen...INSTANT CALL
    back looking to make some moolah
  10. #10
    yeah, when i played that hand i was on tilt because id dropped £300 that day at $25NL - buying in half stacked too, id been straight flushed and 4 of a kinded about 5 times in the last 2 hours, and i think that influenced my decision. I agree in hindsight that it was an easy call, although what went through my mind when contemplating whether to call was "what does he think i have" and id played super tight up until then this being my first preflop raise - so I'd have to assume he put me on a high PP and still pushed. However this is a $25NL opponant so chances are he probably wasnt even thinking about what i could have had.

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