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    Default Flopped set against overpair and possible TPTK?

    PokerStars Game #11638918365: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2007/08/22 - 22:27:47 (ET)
    Table 'Beltrovata' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
    Seat 1: D0nkitup ($24.50 in chips)
    Seat 2: wulmpie82 ($47.50 in chips)
    Seat 3: Johnny2Time ($15.90 in chips)
    Seat 4: eltiagoloko ($13.70 in chips)
    Seat 5: Clar17y ($33.65 in chips)
    Seat 6: Only Smitty ($17.90 in chips)
    Seat 7: nfldbunker ($9 in chips)
    Seat 8: PRbigFish ($26.35 in chips)
    Seat 9: max powers12 ($22.80 in chips)
    eltiagoloko: posts small blind $0.10
    Clar17y: posts big blind $0.25
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Clar17y [Tc Td]
    Only Smitty: folds
    nfldbunker: folds
    nfldbunker leaves the table
    PRbigFish: raises $0.50 to $0.75
    max powers12: folds
    D0nkitup: folds
    wulmpie82: calls $0.75
    Johnny2Time: folds
    eltiagoloko: calls $0.65
    Clar17y: raises $1.50 to $2.25
    PRbigFish: folds
    wulmpie82: calls $1.50
    Dratj joins the table at seat #7
    eltiagoloko: calls $1.50
    *** FLOP *** [Qh 2d Ts]
    eltiagoloko: checks
    Clar17y: bets $2
    wulmpie82: calls $2
    eltiagoloko: calls $2
    *** TURN *** [Qh 2d Ts] [7h]
    eltiagoloko: checks
    Clar17y: bets $4.50
    wulmpie82: calls $4.50
    eltiagoloko said, "AA?"
    Clar17y said, "nope"
    eltiagoloko: raises $4.95 to $9.45 and is all-in
    Clar17y: raises $6.55 to $16
    wulmpie82: folds
    *** RIVER *** [Qh 2d Ts 7h] [5s]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    eltiagoloko: shows [Kh Kc] (a pair of Kings)
    Clar17y: shows [Tc Td] (three of a kind, Tens)
    Clar17y collected $35.10 from pot

    Was it better to call the all-in on the turn and then bet out on the river? I re-raised pre-flop here to get HU as i was OOP, turns out if i read my notes on players i would've smooth called as they all had low VPIP and original raiser had 3.4% PFR.
    Turns out original raiser folded and other two called and this happened... lol did i extract maximum value?
    Looking over it, maybe flop bet was a bit weak?

    Clar
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    I'm more interested in how you'd play the hand had you not flopped a set.
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    Well after raising i noticed the VPIP of the small blind was ridiculously low, like 5.6%,and if the flop came all low cards i think he'd have checked and i've have led out on flop/turn maybe slowed down by the river and checked it.

    If it'd come up with the board being the same but the 10 a 9 for example, i'd probably have led out then given up when both called the flop lol...

    Clar
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    the reraise size pre is bad. either flat call or make it $5.50 to go. Flop bet is week also. When you hit a big hand like this bet out big so you get more $$$ in the pot.
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    I like the somewhat small bet on the flop. The set is disguised and it keeps KK and possibly AQ in the hand.
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    As it happened i think those were both the hands the two others had, but isn't an overpair calling a large bet here?

    Personally if i had KK in this position, i'd raise the flop for information and think very hard about calling a push or sizable re-raise which usually indicates two-pair/set in my experience.

    I probably could've got away with a bigger bet on the flop. Saying the pre-flop raise was bad, that means i should've played the 10s for set value only?

    Clar

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