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    Default Flushy day... comments?

    Guy just sat down.

    Stage #220819918: Holdem No Limit $0.50 - 2005-11-07 15:00:28 (ET)
    Table: CLEARWATER (Real Money) Seat #2 is the dealer
    Seat 2 - DWWG ($103.30 in chips)
    Seat 5 - BUNTYMCCRUMP ($244.24 in chips)
    Seat 6 - THE CAVE ($124.40 in chips)
    Seat 7 - F1NKY ($24.20 in chips)
    Seat 8 - FINMASTER ($36.50 in chips)
    Seat 9 - _DH_ ($100 in chips)
    Seat 1 - OSIDE KID ($197.70 in chips)
    BUNTYMCCRUMP - Posts small blind $0.50
    THE CAVE - Posts big blind $1
    _DH_ - Posts $1
    *** POCKET CARDS ***
    Dealt to BUNTYMCCRUMP [Qh Ad]
    F1NKY - Folds
    FINMASTER - Folds
    _DH_ - Checks
    OSIDE KID - Folds
    DWWG - Folds
    BUNTYMCCRUMP - Raises $4 to $4.50
    THE CAVE - Folds
    _DH_ - Calls $3.50
    *** FLOP *** [Ac 3c 7h]
    BUNTYMCCRUMP - Bets $7
    _DH_ - Calls $7
    *** TURN *** [Ac 3c 7h] [10s]
    BUNTYMCCRUMP - Bets $15
    _DH_ - Calls $15
    *** RIVER *** [Ac 3c 7h 10s] [7c]
    BUNTYMCCRUMP - Bets $15
    _DH_ - All-In(Raise) $73.50 to $73.50
    BUNTYMCCRUMP - Folds

    This seems to be the way of the day... should I have bet any of those streets harder? Guy took my money and left right afterwards. Jerkhole.

    This is a weird and weak question, but did my river bet actually have a purpose there? Looking at it, I'm leaning towards a fold here as the pot is around $50, and I don't want to put anymore than $15 into that. I could have gotten bluffed out on this one.
  2. #2
    Meh. I play it a big different, but meh.
  3. #3
    Please elaborate.
  4. #4
    $3 pre-flop. 1/2-3/4 pot on the flop (maybe check), 1/2 pot the turn. Either check or repeat bet the river.

    There is ambiguity there by design because I like to give the same hand different looks. Bottom line here, it that I have a hand with showdown value but I don't want to play a big pot and I'm out of position to boot. I want to put the betting in a context where my opponents will have trouble putting me in a difficult spot.
  5. #5
    My line was close to yours, just pricier and that made it more difficult on the river. I bet 3/4 on the flop to make it hard for flush draws to come along, and then 2/3 on the turn for the same reason.

    Am I overvaluing the lack of information that keeping my preflop raises consistent puts out? I don't think I deviate from my PFR amount much at all when I get a good value for a given table. Same kind of deal with my c-bets, although they do vary from 2/3 to near full pots. I bet the same amount when I hit a strong hand as well. Somehow leaving my table standard (for this table) of $4 to a $3 PFR seems wrong somehow.

    Lowering my PFR to $3 and taking the aggressive side of FNord's line, the pot would have cost me less:

    $3 PFR bet ($6.50)
    $4 flop bet ($14.50)
    $8 turn bet ($30.50)
    $8 river bet ($46.50 with a call)

    So it would have only cost me $23 not $41.

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