Fold this set?

Villian is 35/5 over 42 hands.
Any way you fold this? I don't like raising PF with this in EP, expected a raise somewhere, oh well.

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Stack sizes:
UTG: $51.55
Hero: $46.55
MP1: $63.55
MP2: $23.00
MP3: $41.25
CO: $59.10
Button: $47.00
SB: $49.50
BB: $92.40

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is UTG+1 with 9 9
UTG folds, Hero calls, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, 3 folds, SB calls, BB checks.

Flop: 7 9 6 ($2, 4 players)
SB bets $1.5, BB calls, Hero raises to $4, MP2 folds, SB calls, BB raises to $16.5, Hero raises all-in $42.05, SB folds, BB calls.

Turn: 2 ($90.1, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $90.1)


River: T ($90.1, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $90.1)


Results:
Final pot: $90.1

Why do you think you should fold this? what is your thought process that leads you to believe that a fold is a good idea?

You flopped top set on a drawish board, unraised pot. If he flopped a straight, oh well, and you still have outs.

If he flopped a draw and is playing it aggressively (far more likely in this case) he is behind you - 7s8s, which would be an absolute flop monster, is behind you here:

http://twodimes.net/poker/?g=h&b=7d+...+9d%0D%0A7s+8s

PS - I'm not folding. I stick it all in...

I think you played this fine. If the guy had T8 and hit the flop hard, so be it. Otherwise you're ahead odds-wise every which way.

raise pf

as played, cant fold.

Originally Posted by TerryToma

raise pf

Since when is raising 1st in with 99 a smart move? You can't call a reraise with that hand, and you want more people in the pot for set value anyway. err????

[quote="Blinky"]Why do you think you should fold this? what is your thought process that leads you to believe that a fold is a good idea?/quote]

Well I obviously didn't...just checking that I didn't miss some signal. Looking back the only thing that concerns me is the cold call by Villian, the reraising my reraise.

I discount draws here. I'm still ahead of 2 of 3 hands I put him on. 66, 77, 810. I figure it still the right move, just wanted to check with the experts.

Originally Posted by Dr_Giggles

Originally Posted by TerryToma

raise pf

Since when is raising 1st in with 99 a smart move? You can't call a reraise with that hand, and you want more people in the pot for set value anyway. err????

i usually call a reraise up to 3$ total.. then im playing for set value.. reraising is very rare at these levels.. and you know they have AK+, JJ+... that info helps to narrow their range, etc...

also if you hit your set UTG with 99, its very hidden, ive had KJ felt this on J94 flops before.. they do this because no one expects you to raise 99 utg.. easy to take down on a cbet because they put you on a big hand, and manytimes they just call to see if they can crack your big hand

when i used to think as you did, i paid of some better player who raised 99 pf, and i had AK with an A92 flop..

now if you are on a loose table with someone reraisng big all the time then, yeah. dont raise.. but this happens maybe 1 out of 8 tables in todays bonuswhoring/nitty environment.

Originally Posted by Dr_Giggles

Originally Posted by TerryToma

raise pf

Since when is raising 1st in with 99 a smart move? You can't call a reraise with that hand, and you want more people in the pot for set value anyway. err????

you can call a rr with that hand

That's right, you can do anything you want.

Originally Posted by Dr_Giggles

That's right, you can do anything you want.

calling a reraise with 99 pf (granted its not much higher than 3x your original raise) is very similar to limp/calling in the first place.

Originally Posted by Dr_Giggles

That's right, you can do anything you want.

it is clearly wrong to say it is incorrect to call any re-raise if you raise 99 in early position

Limp Calling is so weak.

99 preflop is such a tricky hand to raise preflop with because if you hit a set on a weak looking board, it's nearly impossible for anyone to put you on your hand. In these situations a c-bet will often look far too suspicious to your opponents, sometimes so much so that they re-raise with air, allowing you to slow down and let them bluff at the pot, setting up check-raises etc.

And the times overcards hit the table? A c-bet will often take down the pot.

Isolate and punish your opponents, raising pre flop with 99 is a strong and +EV play in most situations.

As they said, raise preflop unless the table is super aggro and you know you'll get reraised.

As played, nh sir.

Agreed...he definitely played this well.

Thanks for the 99 insight...although I don't agree completely I like to read other opinions. I guess my feeling is that you'll hit your set 1/9th of the time without another big pocket pair hitting their set as well / you'll flop another 9 every 8.5 flops and there will usually be overcards the times you don't.

It's all good, good discussion guys.

Originally Posted by Dr_Giggles

Agreed...he definitely played this well.

Thanks for the 99 insight...although I don't agree completely I like to read other opinions. I guess my feeling is that you'll hit your set 1/9th of the time without another big pocket pair hitting their set as well / you'll flop another 9 every 8.5 flops and there will usually be overcards the times you don't.

It's all good, good discussion guys.

if you raise PF and only get 1 caller, they will miss the flop 2/3rds of the time.. and your 99 is good.. cbet and you win the pot right there..

No folds plz.

PF is fine, i'd be more inclined to limp it here in loose games. in tighter games raising is fine.

Originally Posted by TerryToma

Originally Posted by Dr_Giggles

Agreed...he definitely played this well.

Thanks for the 99 insight...although I don't agree completely I like to read other opinions. I guess my feeling is that you'll hit your set 1/9th of the time without another big pocket pair hitting their set as well / you'll flop another 9 every 8.5 flops and there will usually be overcards the times you don't.

It's all good, good discussion guys.

if you raise PF and only get 1 caller, they will miss the flop 2/3rds of the time.. and your 99 is good.. cbet and you win the pot right there..

Well I guess that's my side....I want more than one caller. I see your point also though, thank you.