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    Default Folding AA?

    PokerStars Game #572520340: Tournament #2180111, Hold'em No Limit - Level II
    (15/30) - 2004/07/27 - 13:32:05 (ET)
    Table '2180111 1' Seat #7 is the button
    Seat 4: iamapoc (1490 in chips)
    Seat 7: DMBAND36 (860 in chips)
    Seat 1: kondorius (1500 in chips)
    Seat 2: Chasbrielle (3530 in chips)
    Seat 8: phatdave (1400 in chips)
    Seat 9: allLiving (4720 in chips)
    phatdave: posts small blind 15
    allLiving: posts big blind 30
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to allLiving [Ad As]
    kondorius: folds
    Chasbrielle: folds
    iamapoc: folds
    DMBAND36: calls 30
    phatdave: calls 15
    allLiving: raises 120 to 150
    DMBAND36: folds
    phatdave: calls 120
    *** FLOP *** [7c 6h 3h]
    phatdave: checks
    allLiving: bets 90
    phatdave: calls 90
    *** TURN *** [7c 6h 3h] [Qh]
    phatdave: checks
    allLiving: bets 60
    phatdave: calls 60
    *** RIVER *** [7c 6h 3h Qh] [Qc]
    phatdave: checks
    allLiving: bets 240
    phatdave: raises 860 to 1100 and is all-in
    allLiving: folds
    phatdave collected 1110 from pot
    allLiving said, "folded rockets just for you "
    phatdave: doesn't show hand
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 1110 | Rake 0
    Board [7c 6h 3h Qh Qc]
    Seat 4: iamapoc folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 7: DMBAND36 (button) folded before Flop
    Seat 1: kondorius folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: Chasbrielle folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: phatdave (small blind) collected (1110)
    Seat 9: allLiving (big blind) folded on the River

    Good move?

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  2. #2
    I was trying to induce a check-raise bet by and wimped out on the river. I put him on a flush.

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    yikes - a scary hand.

    he's checking and then calling you each time. you've got a potential heart flush and multiple Q's on the board, so you need to slow it down.

    i think your play was fine, except i would have checked back on the river when the second queen hit just to be safe. that would have also allowed you to see his hand, and hopefully get a future read on his playing.

    i'd put him on QQ or maybe AQ. i don't think he had the flush or he would have given you a more "callable" reraise on the river.
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    I thought the bet on the flop was too weak. I would've bet at least the pot, most especially with your opponent's possible 4-flush. It might have got him to lay it down right there.

    That being said, it was a good lay down at the end.
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    I was trying to induce a check-raise bet by and wimped out on the river. I put him on a flush. I coulda played it better by betting the flop hard, but that's no fun!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xianti
    I thought the bet on the flop was too weak. I would've bet at least the pot, most especially with your opponent's possible 4-flush. It might have got him to lay it down right there.

    That being said, it was a good lay down at the end.
    yeah - i missed that. you most likely had the best hand on the flop - definitely a pot-sized bet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by allLiving
    I was trying to induce a check-raise bet by and wimped out on the river. I put him on a flush. I coulda played it better by betting the flop hard, but that's no fun!
    I generally don't like to get fancy with monster pocket pairs. It's better to win smaller pots than lose bigger ones. I honestly believe you'll profit more in the long run by not slow-playing these.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xianti
    Quote Originally Posted by allLiving
    I was trying to induce a check-raise bet by and wimped out on the river. I put him on a flush. I coulda played it better by betting the flop hard, but that's no fun!
    I generally don't like to get fancy with monster pocket pairs. It's better to win smaller pots than lose bigger ones. I honestly believe you'll profit more in the long run by not slow-playing these.
    Fully agreeable! Sometimes I gotta let go though and try something new

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xianti
    I generally don't like to get fancy with monster pocket pairs. It's better to win smaller pots than lose bigger ones. I honestly believe you'll profit more in the long run by not slow-playing these.
    word up, home slice! 8-)

    from my PT:

    AA wins 90%
    KK wins 86.36%

    strong winners, but not my best T$ makers due to being played hard on the flop - i hate getting outdrawn!

    interestingly, my top T$ makers are TT followed closely by AQ suited.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fishstick
    interestingly, my top T$ makers are TT followed closely by AQ suited.
    That's very interesting. You must be betting your TTs very hard pre-flop.

    I gotta get me that PokerTracker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xianti
    Quote Originally Posted by fishstick
    interestingly, my top T$ makers are TT followed closely by AQ suited.
    That's very interesting. You must be betting your TTs very hard pre-flop.

    I gotta get me that PokerTracker.
    in an unraised pot with good position, i'm pretty hard with JJ and TT preflop. on the lucky side, i seem to get a lot of 962 rainbow type flops when i hold TT.

    regarding poker tracker - i'm loving it more and more every day--->ala krusty from the simpsons (in a monotone): "i heartily endorse this product or event."

    seriously, it's a great app. i've got it installed at work and at home.
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    You got what you begged for on every street.

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