Hand Analysis - Low stakes

Hey everyone, I would appreicate any comments on the betting moves I made. Sorry about the HH, but I can't figure out the converter for the life of me! Thanks in advance.

My reads: I am basically a beginner, but this table seemed to suck all around. Seemed like everyone wanted to see the Flop on every hand.

Hand 1: everyone limped which seemd to me to mean complete weakness. I figured with no one moving, I didn't have to fear an A/Q. Stupid?? I checked on the Turn, hoping to check-raise. Bad move? Should I have just bet out? Results in white.


Table Beginners 1054704 (Real Money) -- Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: Pepethefisu ( $21)
Seat 2: Freddan112 ( $26.61)
Seat 3: SteveJack007 ( $15.98)
Seat 4: mlindy03 ( $14.35)
Seat 5: kylepilsner ( $26)
Seat 6: dfwplsnt ( $8.30)
Seat 7: stalattac ( $9.90)
Seat 8: Annie2cards ( $9.95)
Seat 9: Maharajah333 ( $24.55)
Seat 10: DAKTA817 ( $11.70)
stalattac posts small blind (0.05)
Annie2cards posts big blind (0.10)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Maharajah333 [ Qc, Js ]
Maharajah333 calls (0.10)
DAKTA817 calls (0.10)
Pepethefisu folds.
Freddan112 calls (0.10)
SteveJack007 folds.
mlindy03 folds.
kylepilsner calls (0.10)
dfwplsnt folds.
stalattac calls (0.05)
Annie2cards checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 7s, 2h, Qh ]
stalattac bets (0.10)
Annie2cards folds.
Maharajah333 raises (1) to 1
DAKTA817 folds.
Freddan112 raises (1.90) to 1.90
kylepilsner folds.
stalattac folds.
Maharajah333 raises (3) to 4
Freddan112 calls (2.10)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 8s ]
Maharajah333 checks.
Freddan112 checks.
** Dealing River ** : [ 8c ]
Maharajah333 bets (2)
Freddan112 calls (2)
** Summary **
Main Pot: $12.10 | Rake: $0.60
Board: [ 7s 2h Qh 8s 8c ]
Freddan112 balance $20.51, lost $6.10 [ 2s Qs ] [ two pairs, queens and eights -- Qs,Qh,8s,8c,7s ]
Maharajah333 balance $30.55, bet $6.10, collected $12.10, net +$6 [ Qc Js ] [ two pairs, queens and eights with jack kicker -- Qc,Qh,Js,8s,8c ]


Hand 2: I really didn't know what to do here. I was 4 to a flush, with limpers, but with 3 overs to beat for the nut hand, it seemed like a bad play. What is your play here? Results in white.

Table Beginners 1054704 (Real Money) -- Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: Pepethefisu ( $20.20)
Seat 2: Naksemon ( $9.85)
Seat 3: SteveJack007 ( $15.43)
Seat 4: mlindy03 ( $13.65)
Seat 5: kylepilsner ( $25.60)
Seat 6: dfwplsnt ( $9.90)
Seat 7: stalattac ( $9.20)
Seat 8: Annie2cards ( $9.70)
Seat 9: Maharajah333 ( $31.05)
Seat 10: DAKTA817 ( $13.55)
mlindy03 posts small blind (0.05)
kylepilsner posts big blind (0.10)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Maharajah333 [ 3c, Jc ]
dfwplsnt calls (0.10)
stalattac calls (0.10)
Annie2cards folds.
Maharajah333 calls (0.10)
DAKTA817 calls (0.10)
Pepethefisu folds.
Naksemon folds.
SteveJack007 calls (0.10)
mlindy03 folds.
kylepilsner checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 9c, 9s, 6c ]

Your move?

Of course I hit the flush on the turn and would have won. Any thoughts here? Is this a good laydown? Should I have even called Pre-flop?

kylepilsner checks.
dfwplsnt checks.
stalattac bets (1)
Maharajah333 folds.
DAKTA817 calls (1)
SteveJack007 folds.
kylepilsner folds.
dfwplsnt folds.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 5c ]
stalattac checks.
DAKTA817 bets (0.10)
stalattac calls (0.10)
** Dealing River ** : [ Td ]
stalattac checks.
DAKTA817 bets (0.10)
stalattac calls (0.10)
** Summary **
Main Pot: $2.90 | Rake: $0.15
Board: [ 9c 9s 6c 5c Td ]
stalattac balance $10.80, bet $1.30, collected $2.90, net +$1.60 [ 6d Kd ] [ two pairs, nines and sixes with king kicker -- Kd,9c,9s,6d,6c ]
Maharajah333 balance $30.95, lost $0.10 (folded)
DAKTA817 balance $12.25, lost $1.30 [ 6h 7h ] [ two pairs, nines and sixes -- Td,9c,9s,6h,6c ]

fold them both preflop. find a starting hands chart somewhere and learn what hands are good in what positions.

Originally Posted by gabe

fold them both preflop. find a starting hands chart somewhere and learn what hands are good in what positions.

Originally Posted by gabe

fold them both preflop. find a starting hands chart somewhere and learn what hands are good in what positions.

Hand 1 is a group 5 hand according the the FTR charts, and I limped from early position and caught a piece of the flop. So you are saying you fold QJ from early every time?

Hand 2, fair enough, its shit, but at that table I figured wtf.

Originally Posted by Maharajah

Hand 1 is a group 5 hand according the the FTR charts, and I limped from early position and caught a piece of the flop. So you are saying you fold QJ from early every time?

Just about every time. If they are suited i'll try a limp if the table has been really passive pre flop and letting a lot of hands see the flop for cheap.

If you try to limp it too often, you are going to be forced to fold more times than the times that you actually connect with the flop pays you.

Even if you connect with the flop, the hand is still in jeopardy because you are out of position. You are out of position here, you make some very aggressive raises and get called by a whacko and luck out that he was dumb enough to pay you with TP no kicker.

Trying to limp 75% of hands to the flop because you have the mindset "Well if only i catch two pair or a lucky full house, think of the stacks of chips they will hand over to me! No one expects the rag rag offsuit to win!" is going to cost you money because that happens so rarely, all the attempts you make at seeing flops cost more than the one time you get paid makes up for.

Originally Posted by Maharajah

Hand 2, fair enough, its shit, but at that table I figured wtf.

That is a good attitude for playing Madden video games when you are at your own 20 yard line on 4th down and go for a fake punt instead of a real one...Dumb move, but you figure wtf. Don't try it in poker.