How can you not put this guy on a QQ/JJ?

This guys wasn't in a lot of hands so I knew he had something good. When he checked the flop, I figured the A and/or K scared him. Then I hit my card and it went downhill from there. Was this played right?

DannyD

***** Hand History for Game 3225372047 *****
0/0 Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) - Sun Dec 18 22:40:48 EST 2005
Table Table 66487 (Real Money) -- Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: fobog ( $39.50)
Seat 2: AxeMan1101 ( $27)
Seat 3: RoughBeast ( $23.55)
Seat 4: lazy2dogs ( $22.50)
Seat 5: poker110_00 ( $12.33)
Seat 6: SteveMather ( $23.55)
Seat 7: Badgers2481 ( $23.15)
Seat 8: dannyd267 ( $33.08)
Seat 9: pokar_pony ( $31.60)
Seat 10: XAAAX1 ( $13.01)
Badgers2481 posts small blind (0.10)
dannyd267 posts big blind (0.25)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to dannyd267 [ 4d, 4s ]
pokar_pony folds.
XAAAX1 folds.
fobog folds.
AxeMan1101 folds.
RoughBeast calls (0.25)
lazy2dogs raises (1) to 1
poker110_00 folds.
Badgers2481 folds.
dannyd267 calls (0.75)
RoughBeast folds.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Kh, 6h, Ad ]
dannyd267 checks.
lazy2dogs checks.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 4c ]
dannyd267 checks.
lazy2dogs bets (1.50)
dannyd267 raises (4) to 4
lazy2dogs raises (5.50) to 7
dannyd267 raises (28.08) to 32.08
dannyd267 is all-In.
lazy2dogs calls (14.50)
lazy2dogs is all-In.
** Dealing River ** : [ Jd ]
Creating Main Pot with $43.10 with lazy2dogs
Creating Side Pot 1 with $10.58 with dannyd267
** Summary **
Main Pot: $43.10 | Side Pot 1: $10.58 | Rake: $2.25
Board: [ Kh 6h Ad 4c Jd ]
fobog balance $39.50, didn't bet (folded)
AxeMan1101 balance $27, didn't bet (folded)
RoughBeast balance $23.30, lost $0.25 (folded)
lazy2dogs balance $43.10, bet $22.50, collected $43.10, net +$20.60 [ Ac As ] [ three of a kind, aces -- Ac,As,Ad,Kh,Jd ]
poker110_00 balance $12.33, didn't bet (folded)
SteveMather balance $23.55, sits out
Badgers2481 balance $23.05, lost $0.10 (folded)
dannyd267 balance $10.58, bet $33.08, collected $10.58, lost -$22.50 [ 4d 4s ] [ three of a kind, fours -- Ad,Kh,4d,4s,4c ]
pokar_pony balance $31.60, didn't bet (folded)
XAAAX1 balance $13.01, didn't bet (folded)


EDIT: OK I pasted a totally different hand in here that had nothing to do with the intro. Try this one and let me know if I played it right.

Ni han.

Quads are not always getting paid off.. This was at a bad beat table btw (losing with quads 8's or better triggers jackpot):

** Game ID 616974658 starting - 2005-12-19 00:35:54
** Bad Beat Table 4 [Hold 'em] (0.50|1.00 No Limit - Cash Game) Real Money

- wiretapper sitting in seat 1 with $159.40 [Dealer]
- atsen sitting in seat 2 with $11.65
- OhGiggity sitting in seat 3 with $97.80
- Howlzat sitting in seat 4 with $64.62
- Hassy sitting in seat 5 with $240.61
- skinsfan76 sitting in seat 6 with $17.00
- johnny291281 sitting in seat 7 with $100.00
- NegreanuRox sitting in seat 8 with $32.95
- lill_bomber sitting in seat 9 with $64.50
- ean_88 sitting in seat 10 with $16.10

atsen posted the small blind - $0.50
OhGiggity posted the big blind - $1.00
** Dealing card to johnny291281: Ace of Spades, Ace of Diamonds
Howlzat folded
Hassy folded
skinsfan76 called - $1.00
johnny291281 raised - $4.00
NegreanuRox folded
lill_bomber called - $4.00
ean_88 folded
wiretapper folded
atsen folded
OhGiggity called - $4.00
skinsfan76 called - $4.00

** Dealing the flop: Ace of Clubs, 6 of Spades, Ace of Hearts
OhGiggity checked
skinsfan76 checked
johnny291281 checked
lill_bomber checked

** Dealing the turn: Queen of Spades
OhGiggity checked
skinsfan76 checked
johnny291281 checked
lill_bomber checked

** Dealing the river: 4 of Spades
OhGiggity checked
skinsfan76 checked
johnny291281 bet - $10.00
lill_bomber folded
OhGiggity folded
skinsfan76 folded
johnny291281 wins $25.70 from the main pot

I think I just fire away and hope someone puts be on a weak c-bet because they don't think I'd play quads/trips so fast.

Was hoping for runner runner royal or quads

A boat would be nice too.

Well, he played it clever. It's kinda impossible to fold in your spot.

T.

Originally Posted by Telepath

It's kinda impossible to fold in your spot.

But it isn't impossible to smell a rat and make it difficult for the other guy to get all the money into the center.

BTW: After this hand and a little venting you should have make a note about this flop check and slow play.

Originally Posted by Fnord

Originally Posted by Telepath

It's kinda impossible to fold in your spot.

But it isn't impossible to smell a rat and make it difficult for the other guy to get all the money into the center.

Yes, the final over-the-top push was wrong. But consider the river. Opponent makes a pot sized bet, which puts him all in. Do you fold?

T.

As this hand was played, I would usually flat call his re-raise on the turn, and check/call the river. The flop action is suspicious but he could have QQ/JJ. However, his turn play tells you otherwise. There's three hands he is likely to have here: AA, KK, and AK. It's a question of if you prefer to take AK to the cleaners, or not go broke to AA/KK. Might even be a simple math problem to figure out which approach is correct, but it seems to me more likely that he would check behind on the flop with AA/KK than with AK.

Originally Posted by Telepath

Yes, the final over-the-top push was wrong. But consider the river. Opponent makes a pot sized bet, which puts him all in. Do you fold?

T.

no.

Originally Posted by Fnord

I think I just fire away and hope someone puts be on a weak c-bet because they don't think I'd play quads/trips so fast.

I like this line, and then play it the total opposite later...