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  1. #1

    Default How to play a straight / flush draw?

    Stage #621610534: Holdem No Limit $0.25 - 2007-04-03 23:06:45 (ET)
    Table: PELICAN AVE (Real Money) Seat #8 is the dealer
    Seat 8 - ALBA216 ($6.55 in chips)
    Seat 9 - WULRUS ($42.35 in chips)
    Seat 1 - JASFAL ($52.60 in chips)
    Seat 2 - WE3ZIE ($52.75 in chips)
    Seat 3 - BLAZE144 ($8.15 in chips)
    Seat 4 - OCEAN777 ($14.75 in chips)
    Seat 5 - SGWINKEL ($22.90 in chips)
    Seat 6 - GORDIES22 ($11.90 in chips)
    Seat 7 - JONNYSTORM ($54.20 in chips)
    WULRUS - Posts small blind $0.10
    JASFAL - Posts big blind $0.25
    *** POCKET CARDS ***
    Dealt to WE3ZIE [7c 8c]
    WE3ZIE - Calls $0.25
    BLAZE144 - Folds
    OCEAN777 - Folds
    SGWINKEL - Raises $0.50 to $0.50
    GORDIES22 - Folds
    JONNYSTORM - Folds
    ALBA216 - Folds
    WULRUS - Calls $0.40
    JASFAL - Calls $0.25
    WE3ZIE - Calls $0.25
    *** FLOP *** [5s Jc 6c]
    WULRUS - Bets $0.25
    JASFAL - Folds
    WE3ZIE - Raises $0.75 to $0.75
    SGWINKEL - Raises $1.50 to $1.50
    WULRUS - Raises $4.50 to $4.75
    WE3ZIE - Calls $4
    SGWINKEL - Calls $3.25
    *** TURN *** [5s Jc 6c] [10s]
    WULRUS - All-In $37.10
    WE3ZIE - Folds
    SGWINKEL - Folds
    WULRUS - returned ($37.10) : not called
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    WULRUS - Does not show
    WULRUS Collects $15.45 from main pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total Pot($16.25) | Rake ($0.80)
    Board [5s Jc 6c 10s]
    Seat 1: JASFAL (big blind) Folded on the FLOP
    Seat 2: WE3ZIE Folded on the TURN
    Seat 3: BLAZE144 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
    Seat 4: OCEAN777 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
    Seat 5: SGWINKEL Folded on the TURN
    Seat 6: GORDIES22 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
    Seat 7: JONNYSTORM Folded on the POCKET CARDS
    Seat 8: ALBA216 (dealer) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
    Seat 9: WULRUS (small blind) collected Total ($15.45) All-In HI$15.45) [Does not show]


    Seeing as how I was favored to hit, I was trying to get as much money in on the flop as possible (especially with the third guy hanging around), but then I had no idea how to play the blank turn. Any suggestions?
  2. #2
    You flopped a very nice hand. So, get more money in! Make a large flop reraise, and shove all other raises.

    Turn call is close. I would still do it since you are ~34% against his tightest range.

    You need 41% equity to call this bet, and if you take A-10s out of that range you can call this. Calling is even better if villain will also play two pair this way.
  3. #3
    I thought about pushing the flop to the raise. Is this the best way to play these hands, especially when you are getting 2 callers? I put my opponent on a set but I had just sat down so I wasn't sure.

    (He later said he had 2 pair and the rabbit card showed a 4 which made my straight, to make matters worse)
  4. #4
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    I would rather see you RRraise the flop instead of calling and be willing to get it all in if needed.

    equity win tie pots won pots tied
    Hand 0: 40.258% 40.26% 00.00% 3587 0.00 { 8c7c }
    Hand 1: 59.742% 59.74% 00.00% 5323 0.00 { JJ, 66-55 }

    equity win tie pots won pots tied
    Hand 0: 53.939% 53.94% 00.00% 6408 0.00 { 8c7c }
    Hand 1: 46.061% 46.06% 00.00% 5472 0.00 { KK+ }

    equity win tie pots won pots tied
    Hand 0: 36.667% 36.67% 00.00% 363 0.00 { 8c7c }
    Hand 1: 63.333% 63.33% 00.00% 627 0.00 { Ac2c }


    EDIT: I calculated the Axs wrong and included all suits lol, obviously we are a bigger dog if he has two overs that are clubs. We only have 34% equity then.

    I think this is a set more often than not so I would stick it in on the flop.

    As the turn is a brick we need to fold, I dont think we are getting the right equity vs any legitimate holdings...Even two pair

    Board: 5s Jc 6c Th
    Dead:

    equity win tie pots won pots tied
    Hand 0: 29.545% 29.55% 00.00% 39 0.00 { 8c7c }
    Hand 1: 70.455% 70.45% 00.00% 93 0.00 {55 ,JJ, 66}

    Board: 5s Jc 6c Th
    Dead:

    equity win tie pots won pots tied
    Hand 0: 65.909% 65.91% 00.00% 174 0.00 { J6o }
    Hand 1: 34.091% 34.09% 00.00% 90 0.00 { 8c7c }
  5. #5
    Board: 5s Jc 6c
    Dead:

    equity win tie pots won pots tied
    Hand 0: 60.529% 60.41% 00.12% 25715 52.00 { 8c7c }
    Hand 1: 39.471% 39.35% 00.12% 16751 52.00 { A2s+ }
    This doesn't look right.

    I'm at work so I can't check Pokerstove now, but try rerunning this with Acxc only. The clubs are not outs for us, so we're left with 6 for the OESD plus our 6 pair cards, minus us losing if an A comes even if we make a pair or us losing to the higher flush. I can't see how we're favored vs Acxc.
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    When the betting came around to you again you should have pushed. Not only do you have an excellent chance of hitting your hand but it tilts opponents something fierce when you do.

    As played I fold the turn.


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    I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.

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