i wasn't advocating 12/9 as ideal (like there are magic perfect preflop stats), but it certainly can be a winning style. even at 100nl there are so many opps who dont have a clue about anything except their cards, and against the regs who somewhat pay attention, its not too hard to use your image to your advantage and steal some nice pots. just throwing it out there that you can still run tight and beat games. i think most if not all of us would agree that its really all about postflop skills, and if you can't make good marginal postflop decisions, playing a little tighter pre might make those decisions a whole lot easier.