JJ limp re-raised by lagg

Villain is 36/14 over ~900 hands. I've only been at the table an orbit. UTG limp re-raises signal big hands to me, but I've never seen one from an opp with such a high PFR%. What's your play/plan?

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Holdem Ring game - Blinds: $0.50/$1 - 8 players - Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $67.25
UTG+1: $94.35
MP1: $66.35
MP2: $99.95
Hero: $98.50
Button: $40.90
SB: $126.70
BB: $88.85

Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is CO with J J
UTG calls, 3 folds, Hero raises to $4, 3 folds, UTG raises to $13, Hero...

If you've played 900 hands against a guy, you should understand the general character of his game, and no one can tell you the right play here but you.

I probably fold.

Originally Posted by Renton

If you've played 900 hands against a guy, you should understand the general character of his game, and no one can tell you the right play here but you.

Mostly mined. I've played ~60 hands with him and he's laggy and likes to play table captain. He bluffs and has shown down marginal hands, but isn't terrible. I've never seen him limp re-raise.

we can pretty much put him on two hands, no matter what his stats.

Originally Posted by Miffed22001

we can pretty much put him on two hands, no matter what his stats.

Ok, thanks. This is why I posted the hand. To get opinions like this, or contrary.

Originally Posted by Miffed22001

we can pretty much put him on two hands, no matter what his stats.

No.

I agree with Miffed. I've seen AA or KK 99% of the time when someone limp re-raises. I don't see the +EV in a call.

ive seen it with AA/KK/AK, the other day this guy limpreraised me with JJ and I stacked him with my KK. People also do it with small pairs a lot (i have).

limp- reraise steal? isn't a bad idea actually is it, especially against a fairly LAG player. I will have to consider adding that one- obviously not a move you make often, and def not against a calling station donk, but I like the idea.

Originally Posted by BankItDrew

I agree with Miffed. I've seen AA or KK 99% of the time when someone limp re-raises. I don't see the +EV in a call.

You're obviously not playing at my tables. No fucking way I fold here.

Originally Posted by Fnord

Originally Posted by BankItDrew

I agree with Miffed. I've seen AA or KK 99% of the time when someone limp re-raises. I don't see the +EV in a call.

You're obviously not playing at my tables. No fucking way I fold here.

For once i disagree.

Folding> 3betting hard > calling.

Originally Posted by Miffed22001

Folding> 3betting hard > calling.

I want to see a flop and if he's FoS, I want him to bet into me as it would be a $26ish pot with $50ish behind.

Originally Posted by Fnord

Originally Posted by Miffed22001

Folding> 3betting hard > calling.

I want to see a flop and if he's FoS, I want him to bet into me as it would be a $26ish pot with $50ish behind.

arent we commited if we call any sort of flop type lead when the flop likes us? Opp leads half potish on low board (50ish pot with 35-40behind?)
I like JJ as a hand but i dont like going busto with it in spots like this.

Originally Posted by Miffed22001

I like JJ as a hand but i dont like going busto with it in spots like this.

It's not a full buy-in and I think he's FoS. I'm fine with stacking off for 67bb on a nothing board. My only alarm bell here is that he happens to be EXACTLY UTG.

Originally Posted by Fnord

Originally Posted by Miffed22001

I like JJ as a hand but i dont like going busto with it in spots like this.

It's not a full buy-in and I think he's FoS. I'm fine with stacking off for 67bb on a nothing board. My only alarm bell here is that he happens to be EXACTLY UTG.

that was my reason for putting him on two hands, if he'd been UTG+1 or even any other seat bar the sb id have called for sure and have considered strongly stacking off for 2/3rds a stack versus a player i assume to have a precarious/gambooling image (slaggy) but then thats mybe contradictory. Should we really be stacking off here despite opp being slaggy...?

Originally Posted by Renton

ive seen it with AA/KK/AK, the other day this guy limpreraised me with JJ and I stacked him with my KK. People also do it with small pairs a lot (i have).

I do it against late position isolationists but I'd never do it w/AA/KK. I usually have 9Ts or 66. If he doesn't really have a read on you it makes his hand range more narrow and more of a fold.

i think if u do it with air, you need to at least occasionally show up with KK+ for balance

UTG + limp re-raise, = AA or KK most of the time
also
UTG + min raise, then re-raise = AA or KK most of the time

especially from a 14% PFR