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    Default just slightly deep, KK vs?

    15/12/3 2.6% 3-bet

    is this easy, or am i overthinking

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    CO ($223.85)
    Button ($100)
    SB ($171.50)
    BB ($141.10)
    UTG ($100)
    Hero (UTG+1) ($137.55)
    MP1 ($117.20)
    MP2 ($100)
    MP3 ($100)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K, K
    1 fold, Hero bets $4, 2 folds, MP3 calls $4, CO raises to $16, 3 folds, Hero raises to $36, 1 fold, CO raises to $223.85 (All-In), Hero?
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    2.6% is exactly QQ+,AK
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    FR people are so so nitty Id doubt he shoves AK. Is there any timing tell?

    If I was CO here and 3bet AK here I so fold
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    needless to say tho this is a call. If we had QQ say then id muck pre
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    i actually don't hate folding if you did this with AK but KK no
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    it's quite likely his stack off range is KK+ here if he is a brainless nit and sees you as a nit. I would rather call the 3bet especially if MP3 is in any way fishy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iopq
    2.6% is exactly QQ+,AK
    but this is a squeeze spot.

    um, calling the 3-bet is fine, if you 4-bet it's because you already know what to do if he shoves - right?
    I don't think stacking off with KK pre is a big leak, there are hands from that same session that are far more worthy of review.

    Badgers' call about keeping MP in is valid too. Also, if you're calling pre, then why? and what is your plan post-flop?
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    Quote Originally Posted by badgers
    it's quite likely his stack off range is KK+ here if he is a brainless nit and sees you as a nit. I would rather call the 3bet especially if MP3 is in any way fishy.
    Whats your plan post flop? i dont see any way of getting away post flop unless its Qxx or Axx ?
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    How often does villain expect us to stack off with anything other than KK+ here? How often does villain think we are 4bet bluffing with no history in what are fairly passive games as far as 3betting as squeezing goes? It would be surprising and definitely noteworthy if a reg shoved with AK/QQ here (I know midstakes plays very differently..) This is not like a LP battle we raised UTG+1 and iirc mxiu plays pretty tight. We all know that villain's stack off range is like KK+ 90% of the time, why do we want to get it in preflop again?

    I would have trouble getting away from this postflop because there are some more bluffs in his range and he can still have AK, but we're deep and I wouldn't expect him to barrel particularly often and he won't cbet AK into 2 people a lot of the time if MP3 calls so we can narrow his range and if we're crushed we can fold.. I would be pretty surprised if mxiu was regularly 4betting anythting other than KK+ in this spot without history and that's exactly what it looks like..
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