KK against solid player

Hes a solid player, whats my plan?


Full Tilt Poker Game #1004334865: Table Far Hills - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 18:53:42 ET - 2006/09/15
Seat 1: ccg03_us ($47.80)
Seat 2: Dislexsik ($49.90)
Seat 3: CraigNY ($107.05)
Seat 4: sythe222 ($49.05)
Seat 6: Alchemik ($46.70)
Seat 7: joejoe663 ($48)
Seat 8: sir keepitreal ($92.10)
Seat 9: Burkie15 ($26.50)
Alchemik posts the small blind of $0.25
joejoe663 posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Dislexsik [Kc Kh]
sir keepitreal folds
Burkie15 folds
ccg03_us folds
Dislexsik raises to $2
CraigNY calls $2
sythe222 folds
Alchemik folds
joejoe663 folds
*** FLOP *** [5d 3s Qd]
Dislexsik bets $4
CraigNY raises to $12

i call this be and lead any non A turn. this could be a set, but its just as easily a solid big stack calling your bluff on a c-bet.

Does solid mean "very tough player who's capable of a big bluff" or does it mean "nit who never gets out of line." Folding an overpair every time your continuation bet gets 3X raised is horribly exploitable but if he's a nit he probably sucks too much to exploit that so you can go ahead and fold.

What he said.

I probably should consider stop'n'gos here. On the flip side they're also terribly transparent and rarely balanced.

For better or worse, I make a decision right there as to where I think I'm at. If I think my Kings are good, then I'm check/bombing a non-Diamond non-Ace turn unless I think he's a good (or passive) enough player to check the turn behind on a draw.

Originally Posted by mcatdog

Does solid mean "very tough player who's capable of a big bluff" or does it mean "nit who never gets out of line." Folding an overpair every time your continuation bet gets 3X raised is horribly exploitable but if he's a nit he probably sucks too much to exploit that so you can go ahead and fold.

Well he's running 20/9 or something and he's certainly not a nit.
Ok lets say if i call him and a blank comes on the turn.What is my next move?

Originally Posted by Dislexsik

Originally Posted by mcatdog

Does solid mean "very tough player who's capable of a big bluff" or does it mean "nit who never gets out of line." Folding an overpair every time your continuation bet gets 3X raised is horribly exploitable but if he's a nit he probably sucks too much to exploit that so you can go ahead and fold.

Well he's running 20/9 or something and he's certainly not a nit.
Ok lets say if i call him and a blank comes on the turn.What is my next move?

A/Q or K/Q is just as likely, if not more likely, a holding as 33 or 55 for a 20/9 at this level. I would call the flop, lead out 1/3 the pot on a non-Ace turn and go from there. If they push, I fold.

Originally Posted by Fnord

What he said.

I probably should consider stop'n'gos here. On the flip side they're also terribly transparent and rarely balanced.

For better or worse, I make a decision right there as to where I think I'm at. If I think my Kings are good, then I'm check/bombing a non-Diamond non-Ace turn unless I think he's a good (or passive) enough player to check the turn behind on a draw.

they rarely if ever take the free card at these stakes. We both know that.
QFT btw.

My favorite are the guys that bet 1/4 pot or less with weak hands and draws like middle/bottom pair. They will almost always re-open the action.