KK Hand 140bb deep

Ok doing this one from memory...

$25nl / 9 Players

Villain is like a 12/10 type and hasn't done anything noteworthy. We both have $35 stacks.

UTG raises to $.85
Folds to Hero who is on BTN and has :Kd: :Kh:
Hero raises to $2.50
Folds to UTG
UTG calls $1.65

Flop: :Jc: (Pot is $5.35)
UTG checks, Hero bets$3, UTG calls $3

Turn: (Pot is $11.35)
UTG bets $6, Hero calls $6

River: (Pot is $23.35)
What do you do if UTG checks?
What do you do if UTG bets $12?
What do you do if UTG shoves (PSB)?

What do you put villain on after the flop c/c? What do you put him on after leading the turn?

shove/call/call

looks like ~88+/33/sometimes AJ if he sucks

Also, minraising the turn is a fun line here.

Originally Posted by badgers

shove/call/call

looks like ~88+/33/sometimes AJ if he sucks

Also, minraising the turn is a fun line here.

you really think mid pairs are firing the turn?

bet/call/fold

Bet/shove/call his range is a jack and 55

weak ass flop bet

Originally Posted by martindcx1e

Originally Posted by badgers

shove/call/call

looks like ~88+/33/sometimes AJ if he sucks

Also, minraising the turn is a fun line here.

you really think mid pairs are firing the turn?

after your weak ass cbet, yes.

edit: wow i didn't even read muzz's post. telepathy!

all in no matter what not close

Originally Posted by nutsinho

all in no matter what not close

This. I'll quote you below for funzies

Originally Posted by martindcx1e

Originally Posted by daven

Originally Posted by martindcx1e

I honestly don't come across many hands at all where I feel I played wrong or felt lost at some point.

Leak?
Regardless, wow! I wish I was that disciplined - i knowingly play hands wrongly way too often.

lol i really don't think it's a leak. i've just played so many hands overall, i'm really disciplined, and i don't tilt. i do try to offer my advice to other ppl's hh's as much as i can so it's not like i'm just in my own little world.

I raise his turn bet like it's my job.

Originally Posted by Muzzard

Originally Posted by nutsinho

all in no matter what not close

This. I'll quote you below for funzies

Originally Posted by martindcx1e

Originally Posted by daven

Originally Posted by martindcx1e

I honestly don't come across many hands at all where I feel I played wrong or felt lost at some point.

Leak?
Regardless, wow! I wish I was that disciplined - i knowingly play hands wrongly way too often.

lol i really don't think it's a leak. i've just played so many hands overall, i'm really disciplined, and i don't tilt. i do try to offer my advice to other ppl's hh's as much as i can so it's not like i'm just in my own little world.

what's your problem muzz? i came across a hand i wasn't sure about and i posted it here. chill out. how long have you been waiting to use that quote? jeez.

I'm not sure shoving is best in option B if he's 12/10 over a large sample because I don't expect him to have a J very much unless our image is terribad and the only worse hand calling is QQ. AA/JJ/33/55 are all possiblities...

But yeah definately shove if checked to and call a shove.

lol, on a serious note post more hands IMO as you weren't beating 10nl too big. There's no way you couldn't be lost in some hands/played them wrong if you were scraping like 1ptbb/100 or whatever. (I'm making these figures up, correct me if I'm way off - not including RB obv)

I haven't got an issue, I want to see you move up/develop just like I would with any other player on here. ... and I sincerely mean that.

this is entirely dependent on what type of 12/10 he is and his image of you. if he folds QQ to a felt, as some players will to some players, then you want to bet small enough to keep it in. if he doesn't fold QQ to a felt then shoving turn or river is fine since there's a lot in the pot. overall i prefer calling turn and putting the rest in on river since it gives him rope and makes it a wee bit easier to call with TT than if we just raised the turn.

Originally Posted by XTR1000

bet/call/fold

i think you are the only one to say fold to a push. care to explain more?

QQ knows it gets value from nothing and AA knows it gets value from KK QQ