Quote Originally Posted by Clar17y
PokerStove shows:
Board: Js Qs 5s
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 49.259% 47.61% 01.65% 9899 342.00 { KdKs }
Hand 1: 50.741% 49.10% 01.65% 10207 342.00 { JJ+, AKs, AKo }

Meaning if you tag him as 3-betting JJ+,AKs,AKo you're still 50/50. HOWEVER the only thing calling your shove is going to be JJ,QQ,AA which you're a huge dog against.
Therefore idk if i like shoving, is calling and seeing a turn a bad idea? I'm guessing another spade is good for us. Then we can check and see what villain does?
Clar
Against QQ and JJ I'll still have 11 outs (11x4 ~44%) since he wouldn't hold a spade then, right? So I wouldn't really be "huge dog" against it I think, but AA would be a big problem.

Interesting that opinions differ here. Often I would push this preflop, but not always. Calling on the flop...any other opinions on that? Then I would have to fold to a big bet on a nospade turn, right?

Another thing. As MP2, would you call with AA (no spade), if UTG check push on this flop? (Hero stats PT ~ 18/6).