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  1. #1

    Default Lead out this flop?

    I am fairly sure to get action if I check here...

    Is it better to lead out or check raise?

    Seat 1: iLLmATiK_21 ( $79.18 )
    Seat 2: CHOSEN25 ( $2112.07 )
    Seat 3: beryl111 ( $411.01 )
    Seat 5: dutchman111 ( $267.25 )
    Seat 6: BlackJack_17 ( $679.78 )
    Seat 7: footon ( $195.55 )
    Seat 8: kiosk_______ ( $430 )
    Seat 9: chickadee604 ( $251.35 )
    Seat 10: ndkdbd ( $390 )
    Seat 4: Dayfly ( $392 )
    >You have options at Church Bay (No DP) Table!.
    Dayfly posts small blind [$2].
    dutchman111 posts big blind [$4].
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to Dayfly [ 2c 2s ]
    BlackJack_17 folds.
    >You have options at Church Bay (No DP) Table!.
    footon raises [$8].
    kiosk_______ folds.
    chickadee604 folds.
    >You have options at Church Bay (No DP) Table!.
    ndkdbd calls [$8].
    iLLmATiK_21 folds.
    CHOSEN25 calls [$8].
    beryl111 calls [$8].
    Dayfly calls [$6].
    dutchman111 calls [$4].
    ** Dealing Flop ** [ 2h, Qs, 8h ]
  2. #2
    Bet
  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by Fnord
    Bet
    how much?
  4. #4
    I am fairly sure to get action if I check here...

    Is it better to lead out or check raise?
    I'm sure you would get action if you check here but if you check/raise you announce your hand in a 6 way pot. If you lead you don't define your hand as much. Pot is $48 so I'd bet $30 to $40 and probably right in the middle of that at $35.
  5. #5
    Definitely bet pot here.
  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by Cocco_Bill
    Quote Originally Posted by Fnord
    Bet
    how much?
    $35
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    If we lead for $35 here, what is our line on the turn when the 3rd heart hits? (it's an obvious lead if the 3rd heart does not hit on the turn).
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    Quote Originally Posted by AHiltz
    If we lead for $35 here, what is our line on the turn when the 3rd heart hits? (it's an obvious lead if the 3rd heart does not hit on the turn).
    Bet/fold to a raise.
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  9. #9
    I'm surprised no one has given any merit to a CR here. At a table full of tight-passives, then yes I think leading is better, but at a loose-aggressive table (or just plain bad table), I think I like a CR better. At 400NL+ where people are capable of making moves and such, I think a flop CR is not necesarilly a huge sign of strength. Say you have 8hxh or 9hTh/ThJh and check first to act. PFR bets out $35, gets one or two calls, and you CR to $150 - all in. Is a semi-bluff squeeze like this totally out of your arsenal?

    Like I said before I think you need to include more info about how the table was playing Coco_Bill. I think both leading and CR'ing has its merits, but I would need more info on the table dynamic before I make a decision. As a default play I would lead $35-40 since I like to lead a wide range into the PFR.
  10. #10
    Putting in the 3rd bet with a set > putting in the 2nd bet with a set.

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