Learning Ring Game

Im pretty new to ring game, i play sngs where i go from Tagg to Lagg in later stages, and am pretty sucessful at it. I've posted a few hands before and Dsaxton and i think Jeffrey have helped me before. I am gonna start up a ring game on pokerstars at the .5 / 1 table with the full buy-in, and i want to post the main hands im in, whether their for question calls,folds,raises,etc... For help. Ill post them as i go so this thread should be updated relatively quick.

Hand#1
*********** # 26 **************
PokerStars Game #1571636755: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2005/04/23 - 13:33:19 (ET)
Table 'Rupertwildt' Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: Bill OReilly ($27.70 in chips)
Seat 2: CozyCosmo ($38.25 in chips)
Seat 3: Revlis87 ($156 in chips)
Seat 4: *****HERO**** ($97.50 in chips)
Seat 5: nytdog ($253.85 in chips)
Seat 6: MJpower ($33.40 in chips)
Seat 7: dennisa ($195.70 in chips)
Seat 8: EluZive ($69.30 in chips)
Seat 9: njaa ($100 in chips)
dennisa: posts small blind $0.50
EluZive: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to *****HERO**** [Jh Jc]
njaa: folds
Bill OReilly: folds
CozyCosmo: calls $1
Revlis87: calls $1
*****HERO****: raises $3 to $4
nytdog: folds
MJpower: calls $4
dennisa: folds
EluZive: folds
CozyCosmo: folds
Revlis87: calls $3
*** FLOP *** [6h 7d 6c]
Revlis87: bets $7
*****HERO****: raises $8 to $15
MJpower: folds
Revlis87: folds
*****HERO****collected $27.15 from pot

Btw i switched my name to ****HERO**** so its easier to read
hand #1 pretty basic?

Hand #2

Won't bother writing it out, basically from Early MP i raised 910s (no limpers before me) and get re-raised, im not worried about the re-raise, its an easy fold, but do you guys ever both doing stunts like that? is it worthwhile?

Hand #3

Here's a trickier one

*********** # 16 **************
PokerStars Game #1571677070: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2005/04/23 - 13:41:40 (ET)
Table 'Rupertwildt' Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Bill OReilly ($15.70 in chips)
Seat 3: Revlis87 ($135.45 in chips)
Seat 4: ****HERO****($108.65 in chips)
Seat 5: nytdog ($273.80 in chips)
Seat 6: MJpower ($14.90 in chips)
Seat 7: dennisa ($206 in chips)
Seat 8: EluZive ($66.30 in chips)
Seat 9: njaa ($124.50 in chips)
MINGO 2 will be allowed to play after the button
Revlis87: posts small blind $0.50
lol_E_pop: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ****HERO****: [8s Ah]
nytdog: folds
MJpower: folds
dennisa: calls $1
EluZive: folds
njaa: folds
Bill OReilly: folds
Revlis87: calls $0.50
****HERO****: checks
*** FLOP *** [2s 7h 8h]
Revlis87: bets $3
****HERO****: calls $3
dennisa: calls $3
*** TURN *** [2s 7h 8h] [Ks]
Revlis87: checks
****HERO****: bets $7
dennisa: folds
Revlis87: calls $7
*** RIVER *** [2s 7h 8h Ks] [4h]
Revlis87: bets $10
****HERO****: calls $10

Is this call good or bad? I thought awhile and i was still remembering the stab at the pot when i had JJ...

Hand #4

*********** # 14 **************
PokerStars Game #1571688365: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2005/04/23 - 13:43:59 (ET)
Table 'Rupertwildt' Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: Bill OReilly ($15.70 in chips)
Seat 2: MINGO 2 ($39 in chips)
Seat 3: Revlis87 ($114.45 in chips)
Seat 4: ****HERO**** ($130.95 in chips)
Seat 5: nytdog ($285.20 in chips)
Seat 6: MJpower ($13.90 in chips)
Seat 7: dennisa ($202 in chips)
Seat 8: EluZive ($56.30 in chips)
Seat 9: njaa ($124.50 in chips)
nytdog: posts small blind $0.50
MJpower: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ****HERO****: [Tc Th]
dennisa: calls $1
EluZive: folds
njaa: folds
Bill OReilly: calls $1
MINGO 2: calls $1
Revlis87: folds
****HERO****: calls $1
nytdog: calls $0.50
MJpower: checks
*** FLOP *** [9s 6h Ks]
nytdog: checks
MJpower: checks
dennisa: checks
Bill OReilly: checks
MINGO 2: checks
****HERO****: checks
*** TURN *** [9s 6h Ks] [3d]
nytdog: bets $5
MJpower: folds
dennisa: folds
Bill OReilly: folds
MINGO 2: folds
****HERO****: folds

is this worth raising on the button? Last time i saw someone raise to 4, all 3 limpers called, so that kind of made me want to limp it. Would you raise it? The table was a mix between loose and tight passive, depending on which player.

Here's a weak passive play by me, but it was against a calling station so i was a bit weary of ace rag, your play?

Hand #5

*********** # 11 **************
PokerStars Game #1571701124: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2005/04/23 - 13:46:35 (ET)
Table 'Rupertwildt' Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: Bill OReilly ($14.70 in chips)
Seat 2: MINGO 2 ($37 in chips)
Seat 3: Revlis87 ($114.45 in chips)
Seat 4: ****HERO****($129.95 in chips)
Seat 5: nytdog ($293.55 in chips)
Seat 7: dennisa ($213.60 in chips)
Seat 8: EluZive ($53.30 in chips)
Seat 9: njaa ($123.50 in chips)
njaa: posts small blind $0.50
Bill OReilly: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ****HERO****:[Qd Qc]
OpusOne joins the table at seat #6
MINGO 2: calls $1
Revlis87: folds
****HERO****:raises $2 to $3
nytdog: folds
dennisa: folds
EluZive: folds
njaa: folds
Bill OReilly: folds
MINGO 2: calls $2
*** FLOP *** [9s Ad 5c]
MINGO 2: bets $1
****HERO****: calls $1
*** TURN *** [9s Ad 5c] [Jh]
MINGO 2: bets $3
****HERO****: folds
MINGO 2 collected $9.05 from pot
MINGO 2: doesn't show hand

Hand #6

I'll just describe it, not worth writing out, i limp in from SB with 77 after 2 MP limpers, and the big blind raises it to $5, probably to pick up the dead money, however he outstacked me by alot so i called, the flop came 956 all diamonds ( I had a 7 of diamonds) the pot is now $20 i believe, he bets out $8 with 1 MP caller, then i fold, seems easy enough fold i believe, but the preflop call is +EV or -EV?

Hand #7


*********** # 6 **************
PokerStars Game #1571724015: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2005/04/23 - 13:51:17 (ET)
Table 'Rupertwildt' Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: Bill OReilly ($27 in chips)
Seat 2: MINGO 2 ($51.50 in chips)
Seat 3: Revlis87 ($112.95 in chips)
Seat 4: ****HERO****: ($119.95 in chips)
Seat 5: nytdog ($271.50 in chips)
Seat 6: OpusOne ($30.85 in chips)
Seat 7: dennisa ($213.60 in chips)
Seat 8: EluZive ($68.25 in chips)
Seat 9: njaa ($118 in chips)
nytdog: posts small blind $0.50
OpusOne: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ****HERO****: [Qd Qh]
dennisa: folds
EluZive: folds
njaa: folds
Bill OReilly: folds
MINGO 2: folds
Revlis87: folds
****HERO****: calls $1
nytdog: calls $0.50
OpusOne: checks
*** FLOP *** [8d Qc 5s]
nytdog: bets $2
OpusOne: folds
****HERO****: calls $2
*** TURN *** [8d Qc 5s] [Kh]
nytdog: bets $5
****HERO****: calls $5
*** RIVER *** [8d Qc 5s Kh] [5c]
nytdog: bets $22
****HERO****: raises $28 to $50
nytdog: raises $125 to $175
****HERO****: calls $61.95 and is all-in

would you play that hand any different?


How fishy are my plays? or are these basic abc ring strategies?

Hand 1: fine; not my style, but it works

Hand 2: I usually reserve stuff like this for LP.

Hand 3: You badly need to reraise on that flop. You have TPTK, but that TP is only an 8. Few cards can come to help you, but a lot can come that hurt you. Regarding the call, $10 into a $36 pot. Given your read, I'd probably call this. That said, a big part of me wonders if he has the flush. However it turns out, this one would go into my notes on this player.

Hand 4: Given the button position, I'd raise. But if the limpers are all regularly staying in, I'd probably go ahead and limp. I can't comprehend why you checked the flop or folded the turn though, unless you had a specific read on nytdog that he'd slowplay top pair. With the button, I'm betting that flop, and probably calling or raising the turn. I wouldn't be surprised if nyt held A9s.

Hand 5: You raised preflop, and he led out with a weak bet on the flop. Either raise to rep the ace (hell, if he doesn't have it, then you are winning!) or fold. Don't call.

Hand 6: Do you actually think the flop hit him? Does he continuation bet regularly? I might reraise here, depending on how BB plays. The preflop call was fine as long as his stack and yours were both at least $50.

Hand 7: I'd probably have raised preflop. Did he have K5? Q5?

Originally Posted by JeffreyGB

Hand 1: fine; not my style, but it works

Hand 2: I usually reserve stuff like this for LP.

Hand 3: You badly need to reraise on that flop. You have TPTK, but that TP is only an 8. Few cards can come to help you, but a lot can come that hurt you. Regarding the call, $10 into a $36 pot. Given your read, I'd probably call this. That said, a big part of me wonders if he has the flush. However it turns out, this one would go into my notes on this player.

Hand 4: Given the button position, I'd raise. But if the limpers are all regularly staying in, I'd probably go ahead and limp. I can't comprehend why you checked the flop or folded the turn though, unless you had a specific read on nytdog that he'd slowplay top pair. With the button, I'm betting that flop, and probably calling or raising the turn. I wouldn't be surprised if nyt held A9s.

Hand 5: You raised preflop, and he led out with a weak bet on the flop. Either raise to rep the ace (hell, if he doesn't have it, then you are winning!) or fold. Don't call.

Hand 6: Do you actually think the flop hit him? Does he continuation bet regularly? I might reraise here, depending on how BB plays. The preflop call was fine as long as his stack and yours were both at least $50.

Hand 7: I'd probably have raised preflop. Did he have K5? Q5?

Hand #1: what could i do differntly? im curious to other styles on how to play JJ on a pretty loose preflop calling table.

Hand #2: I'm learning, as probably evident by that play

Hand #3: I was kicking myself for not raising on that flop, as it turns out the guy bet out mid pair, then picked up a spade flush draw on turn (thats why he checked/call) and tried to bluff his failed flush draw (with the other flush draw) on the river, i thought it was a good play by him.

Hand #4: there are 5 limpers, and i have middle pair with a 2 to the flush on the board, surely someone hit a king of any sort? I thought it would just be throwing money away, the pocket tens limping for a buck was so i could get away from them, i could throw them away unless the flop came rags or i hit a set without blowing too much $. Betting with 1 overcard on a flop with 5 limpers, is that standard play? I have no idea, i've never tried to bet that, is it worthwhile?

Hand #5: when i called the $1 bet i realized thats retarded, what am i hoping for? 2 outs? useless, i didnt gain any information, i probably should have raised to about $4-5, then if he called i'd probably know to let go. But throwing in another $5 into a pot where i have $3 invested to a passive calling station, is probably not something i'd want to be doing? I think i should have just let it go for a buck, maybe it would make people think i raised $3 with trash, or i could be easily bluffed.

Hand #6: No, i dont think the flop hit the first guy, i put him on Ad x. What worried me was the mid position caller, who is normally pretty aggro, he just flat calling, i didnt want chase off 2 agressive players on a 3flush board with middle pair, i think thats pretty suicide. I put the first guy on something like A8 A7 A9 with the A being a diamond, second guy i had no idea.

Hand #7: the guy had K5 and i was as happy as could be, i knew he routinely bets out midpair bottom pair, and may do a contiunation bet on turn. I wasn't worried at all about being outdrawn, the turn was non-threatening and from there no river card i could think of would really scare me (except perhaps another king). I knew the guy to be aggressive, so i guess i went for a trap, i could easily let go of queens on the flop, but risk vs reward i think it was worth it?

Re: JJ. I limp from most positions (raising LP if I feel like it's the play to make). Basically, I treat it exactly like TT, playing for a set or overcards to a fairly low board.

Hand 4: Everyone checked to you. That makes me think it's unlikely anyone has a K. Most people won't slowplay top pair (and those that do deserve a note, so you can punish them for it later). You beat anyone who doesn't have a K, and may get a fold from anyone with a K and a low kicker.

Hand 5: At least you realized your mistake. The thing about calling that $1 is that there's almost no chance he's not making a bigger raise on the turn. You can't draw for 2 outs, so either find out for sure if he has the A (reraise on the flop) or fold and save the money it costs to search for your 2 outs.

Hand 6: I didn't notice the MP caller. Still not sure about the play though. If you put MP on the flush, I like the fold. I put BB on overs with a slight possibility of having a diamond.

was this push right? I wanted to get all my chips in the middle, and i can't play scared set all the time.. I'm not worried about the results of this one, but more so about should i be doing this? i also thought about if someone hit a set on an uncoordinated board, their first move would be to check,, that also helped make this an easier then normal call.

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PokerStars Game #1574024117: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2005/04/23 - 20:53:16 (ET)
Table 'Pythia' Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: ****HERO****($99.85 in chips)
Seat 2: EXMARINE ($29.50 in chips)
Seat 3: USANAMACK ($14.85 in chips)
Seat 4: lazarus59 ($85.55 in chips)
Seat 5: JerSmith ($117.20 in chips)
Seat 6: mickmcd69 ($66.50 in chips)
Seat 7: STRAIGHT HI ($67.15 in chips)
Seat 8: elefantphace ($100.25 in chips)
Seat 9: Ubermensch1 ($46.85 in chips)
USANAMACK: posts small blind $0.50
lazarus59: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ****HERO****: [As Ac]
JerSmith: folds
mickmcd69: calls $1
STRAIGHT HI: folds
elefantphace: folds
Ubermensch1: calls $1
****HERO****: raises $3 to $4
EXMARINE: folds
USANAMACK: folds
lazarus59: calls $3
mickmcd69: calls $3
Ubermensch1: calls $3
*** FLOP *** [5d 9c 3s]
lazarus59: checks
mickmcd69: bets $12
Ubermensch1: folds
****HERO****: raises $16 to $28
lazarus59: folds
mickmcd69: raises $34.50 to $62.50 and is all-in
****HERO**** calls $34.50
*** TURN *** [5d 9c 3s] [2h]
*** RIVER *** [5d 9c 3s 2h] [Jh]

All you can be sure of is that they either have a pocket pair or a strong 9x hand and that they think you missed. A set is possible, but many other hands would play that way here as well.

With as many callers as you seem to be getting, you might think about adopting the method of making your raises bigger when limpers have already called (i.e. standard raise = to $4, but add .5 or 1 for every limper, so here you'd raise to $5 or $6). That should probably cut down on the number of callers you get, at least.

ugh how bad of fold was this, i feel so tight/passive.. someone berate me for my stupidness, i guess im result oriented on this one, but fudge!!
what would u do here?

Dealt to ****HERO****: [Qs Qd]
****HERO****: raises $3 to $4
$CASHCOMBS$: folds
PhatBossMan: calls $4
sellinchips: folds
BassAsassin: folds
gushansten: folds
rezdog: calls $3
*** FLOP *** [Qh 4d 6h]
rezdog: bets $4
****HERO****:raises $5 to $9
PhatBossMan: calls $9
rezdog: calls $5
*** TURN *** [Qh 4d 6h] [3h]
rezdog: checks
****HERO****: checks
PhatBossMan: bets $15
rezdog: calls $15
****HERO****: folds

omg im so stupid, i can't believe i folded top set, just because a flush card came, i had 10 outs for the river, and the pot odds weren't THAT far off, i just knew someone hit the flush.. (think of what you'd do this hand, and ill post results farther down..) I honestly think im the biggest moron for folding that there,, ugh










Results: The guy that flat called my reraise on flop had a set of 4's, why he didn't re-raise is beyond me, i made it clear i liked my hand, if i had bottom set i probably would not slowplay on a board like that. The other guy had the baby flush on turn just as i thought. The guy with pocket 4's (who bet when the flush card came) took down the pot with the set, we were equal stacks so surely i would have destacked him FH vs. FH. But i folded so im retarded. This is one of the most stupid plays i have ever made playing poker, i guess the correct move on this was to bet $10-12 on the turn instead? With the first guy flush flat calling (which baffles me, why wouldn't he re-raise) i should have just gone for it and prayed the board paired right? Wait i dont need confirmation, im that stupid. the dumbest part is even if i KNEW the guy had the flush, it would be worth going after it just because of the other guy, i am so stupid 10 outs and i could have had another $150 in my account.