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  1. #1

    Default A lesson in how to never play aces.

    I've had aces 6 times over my last 1500 hands between yesterday and today. 3 I've won on, netting me around $1.75 (folds preflop). I've lost three times, netting me -$68.70.

    Here is a lesson on the absolute worst ways possible to play aces, three examples for you all.

    HH in raw text, since no FullTilt Support.

    Example #1
    FullTiltPoker Game #591410790: Table Ann - $0.10/$0.25 - No Limit Hold'em - 22:21:22 ET - 2006/04/24
    Seat 1: Lostit2 ($24.90)
    Seat 2: joshuaashtondzl ($27.05)
    Seat 3: MycroftHolmes ($12.65)
    Seat 4: gristle69 ($17.05)
    Seat 5: Youth ($47.65)
    Seat 6: ace9135 ($25)
    Seat 7: pokerchip989 ($35.15)
    Seat 8: pop1time ($23.30)
    Seat 9: XXXBISHXXX ($10.15)
    gristle69 posts the small blind of $0.10
    Youth posts the big blind of $0.25
    The button is in seat #3
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to joshuaashtondzl [As Ad]
    ace9135 folds
    pokerchip989 folds
    pop1time folds
    XXXBISHXXX raises to $0.85
    Lostit2 folds
    joshuaashtondzl raises to $2.40
    joshuaashtondzl is feeling confused
    MycroftHolmes has 15 seconds left to act
    MycroftHolmes folds
    gristle69 folds
    Youth folds
    XXXBISHXXX calls $1.55
    *** FLOP *** [3h Ts 7d]
    XXXBISHXXX checks
    joshuaashtondzl bets $4.90
    XXXBISHXXX raises to $7.75, and is all in
    joshuaashtondzl calls $2.85
    XXXBISHXXX shows [7s 7h]
    joshuaashtondzl shows [As Ad]
    *** TURN *** [3h Ts 7d] [Jh]
    joshuaashtondzl: nice hand
    *** RIVER *** [3h Ts 7d Jh] [Jc]
    XXXBISHXXX shows a full house, Sevens full of Jacks
    joshuaashtondzl shows two pair, Aces and Jacks
    XXXBISHXXX wins the pot ($19.65) with a full house, Sevens full of Jacks
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $20.65 | Rake $1
    Board: [3h Ts 7d Jh Jc]
    Seat 1: Lostit2 didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 2: joshuaashtondzl showed [As Ad] and lost with two pair, Aces and Jacks
    Seat 3: MycroftHolmes (button) didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 4: gristle69 (small blind) folded before the Flop
    Seat 5: Youth (big blind) folded before the Flop
    Seat 6: ace9135 didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 7: pokerchip989 didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 8: pop1time didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 9: XXXBISHXXX showed [7s 7h] and won ($19.65) with a full house, Sevens full of Jacks

    Example #2
    FullTiltPoker Game #593749264: Table Count Diero - $0.10/$0.25 - No Limit Hold'em - 22:12:59 ET - 2006/04/25
    Seat 1: sharkkaspy ($43.95)
    Seat 2: joshuaashtondzl ($24.90)
    Seat 3: buckchaser ($9.30)
    Seat 4: Barsik ($25.10)
    Seat 5: frutpunc ($61.40)
    Seat 6: BigJ2226 ($9.75)
    Seat 7: caesars711 ($16.85)
    Seat 8: DealMeAces ($24.65)
    Seat 9: Ricky520 ($24.85)
    Ricky520 posts the small blind of $0.10
    sharkkaspy posts the big blind of $0.25
    The button is in seat #8
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to joshuaashtondzl [Ah As]
    joshuaashtondzl raises to $0.85
    buckchaser folds
    Barsik folds
    frutpunc folds
    BigJ2226 folds
    caesars711 calls $0.85
    DealMeAces calls $0.85
    Ricky520 calls $0.75
    sharkkaspy calls $0.60
    *** FLOP *** [Js 3d 8h]
    Ricky520 checks
    sharkkaspy checks
    joshuaashtondzl bets $3.50
    caesars711 folds
    DealMeAces folds
    Ricky520 calls $3.50
    sharkkaspy folds
    *** TURN *** [Js 3d 8h] [9h]
    Ricky520 bets $11.25
    joshuaashtondzl raises to $20.55, and is all in
    Ricky520 calls $9.25, and is all in
    joshuaashtondzl shows [Ah As]
    Ricky520 shows [Qd Td]
    Uncalled bet of $0.05 returned to joshuaashtondzl
    *** RIVER *** [Js 3d 8h 9h] [7c]
    joshuaashtondzl shows a pair of Aces
    Ricky520 shows a straight, Queen high
    Ricky520 wins the pot ($49.65) with a straight, Queen high
    joshuaashtondzl is sitting out
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $52.25 | Rake $2.60
    Board: [Js 3d 8h 9h 7c]
    Seat 1: sharkkaspy (big blind) folded on the Flop
    Seat 2: joshuaashtondzl showed [Ah As] and lost with a pair of Aces
    Seat 3: buckchaser didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 4: Barsik didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 5: frutpunc didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 6: BigJ2226 didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 7: caesars711 folded on the Flop
    Seat 8: DealMeAces (button) folded on the Flop
    Seat 9: Ricky520 (small blind) showed [Qd Td] and won ($49.65) with a straight, Queen high

    Example #3
    FullTiltPoker Game #593845814: Table Count Diero - $0.10/$0.25 - No Limit Hold'em - 22:48:27 ET - 2006/04/25
    Seat 1: sharkkaspy ($47.25)
    Seat 2: joshuaashtondzl ($35.25)
    Seat 3: Coach94 ($8.50)
    Seat 4: Barsik ($31.70)
    Seat 5: Wise-555 ($6.95)
    Seat 6: 1mucker ($12.20)
    Seat 7: funguy79 ($23.60)
    Seat 8: Gor184 ($16.90)
    Seat 9: dubb1 ($7.05)
    dubb1 posts the small blind of $0.10
    sharkkaspy posts the big blind of $0.25
    The button is in seat #8
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to joshuaashtondzl [As Ac]
    joshuaashtondzl raises to $0.85
    Coach94 folds
    Barsik folds
    Wise-555 calls $0.85
    1mucker calls $0.85
    funguy79 folds
    Gor184 folds
    dubb1 folds
    sharkkaspy calls $0.60
    *** FLOP *** [2d 4d Js]
    sharkkaspy checks
    joshuaashtondzl bets $2
    Wise-555 folds
    1mucker folds
    sharkkaspy has 15 seconds left to act
    sharkkaspy raises to $4
    joshuaashtondzl raises to $10
    sharkkaspy raises to $46.40, and is all in
    joshuaashtondzl calls $24.40, and is all in
    sharkkaspy shows [Jh Jc]
    joshuaashtondzl shows [As Ac]
    Uncalled bet of $12 returned to sharkkaspy
    *** TURN *** [2d 4d Js] [Qs]
    *** RIVER *** [2d 4d Js Qs] [3d]
    sharkkaspy shows three of a kind, Jacks
    joshuaashtondzl shows a pair of Aces
    sharkkaspy wins the pot ($69.30) with three of a kind, Jacks
    joshuaashtondzl is sitting out
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $72.30 | Rake $3
    Board: [2d 4d Js Qs 3d]
    Seat 1: sharkkaspy (big blind) showed [Jh Jc] and won ($69.30) with three of a kind, Jacks
    Seat 2: joshuaashtondzl showed [As Ac] and lost with a pair of Aces
    Seat 3: Coach94 didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 4: Barsik didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 5: Wise-555 folded on the Flop
    Seat 6: 1mucker folded on the Flop
    Seat 7: funguy79 didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 8: Gor184 (button) didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 9: dubb1 (small blind) folded before the Flop

    From now on, I'm just putting my money in preflop, all of it, and if I lose, I can say I was ahead!
  2. #2
    All on the same table within 10 minutes.

    Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    Hero ($103.95)
    Button ($403.67)
    SB ($98.60)
    BB ($102.06)
    UTG ($113.76)

    Preflop: Hero is MP with A, A. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
    UTG calls $1, Hero raises to $5, Button calls $5, SB (poster) calls $4.50, 1 fold, UTG folds.

    Flop: ($17) 3, 7, 7 (3 players)
    SB bets $15, Hero calls $15, Button calls $15.

    Turn: ($62) 2 (3 players)
    SB bets $50.27, Hero calls $50.27, Button folds.

    River: ($162.54) T (2 players)
    SB calls $28.33 (All-In), Hero calls $28.33.

    Final Pot: $219.20



    Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    Hero ($97.90)
    CO ($385.37)
    Button ($212.70)
    SB ($100.96)
    BB ($113.36)
    UTG ($23.20)

    Preflop: Hero is MP with A, A. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
    UTG calls $1, Hero raises to $5, 1 fold, Button calls $5, 2 folds, UTG calls $4.

    Flop: ($16.50) 2, J, 4 (3 players)
    UTG bets $5.64, Hero raises to $20, Button folds, UTG calls $12.56 (All-In).

    Turn: ($54.70) 3 (2 players, 1 all-in)

    River: ($54.70) 2 (2 players, 1 all-in)

    Final Pot: $54.70







    Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    Hero ($98.50)
    Button ($381.87)
    SB ($230.15)
    BB ($107.36)
    UTG ($111.86)
    MP ($23.30)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with A, A. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
    UTG calls $1, MP calls $1, Hero raises to $7, 3 folds, UTG folds, MP calls $6.

    Flop: ($16.50) 3, J, 5 (2 players)
    MP bets $1, Hero raises to $17, MP calls $15.30 (All-In).

    Turn: ($49.80) Q (2 players, 1 all-in)

    River: ($49.80) K (2 players, 1 all-in)

    Final Pot: $49.80
    BR: $.1k
    Goal 2: July 1 $10k

    IIbeatsUU: lol u raised with that?

    you mini raised, therefore you desereve whatever you get....

  3. #3
    you'd think i'd have learned.

    FullTiltPoker Game #594020517: Table Fort Apache - $0.10/$0.25 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:52:24 ET - 2006/04/25
    Seat 1: kbart757 ($7.80)
    Seat 2: joshuaashtondzl ($24.65)
    Seat 3: crick1295 ($9.50)
    Seat 4: gmason ($29.55)
    Seat 5: sharkkaspy ($44.55), is sitting out
    Seat 6: TOVY ($9.75)
    Seat 7: irishguy7 ($22.80)
    Seat 8: Donkathon ($11.25)
    Seat 9: x Smart x ($21.40)
    kbart757 posts the small blind of $0.10
    joshuaashtondzl posts the big blind of $0.25
    The button is in seat #9
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to joshuaashtondzl [Ah Ad]
    crick1295 folds
    gmason calls $0.25
    TOVY calls $0.25
    irishguy7 folds
    Donkathon folds
    x Smart x folds
    kbart757 calls $0.15
    joshuaashtondzl raises to $1
    gmason calls $0.75
    TOVY folds
    kbart757 folds
    *** FLOP *** [Js 3c Qh]
    joshuaashtondzl bets $2
    gmason calls $2
    *** TURN *** [Js 3c Qh] [9d]
    joshuaashtondzl bets $6
    gmason raises to $26.55, and is all in
    joshuaashtondzl calls $15.65, and is all in
    gmason shows [3s 3h]
    joshuaashtondzl shows [Ah Ad]
    Uncalled bet of $4.90 returned to gmason
    *** RIVER *** [Js 3c Qh 9d] [7d]
    gmason shows three of a kind, Threes
    joshuaashtondzl shows a pair of Aces
    gmason wins the pot ($47.35) with three of a kind, Threes
    joshuaashtondzl is sitting out
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $49.80 | Rake $2.45
    Board: [Js 3c Qh 9d 7d]
    Seat 1: kbart757 (small blind) folded before the Flop
    Seat 2: joshuaashtondzl (big blind) showed [Ah Ad] and lost with a pair of Aces
    Seat 3: crick1295 didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 4: gmason showed [3s 3h] and won ($47.35) with three of a kind, Threes
    Seat 5: sharkkaspy is sitting out
    Seat 6: TOVY folded before the Flop
    Seat 7: irishguy7 didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 8: Donkathon didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 9: x Smart x (button) didn't bet (folded)
  4. #4
    haha im seriously going to kill myself

    Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    saw flop|saw showdown

    Button ($78.10)
    SB ($287.74)
    Hero ($183.15)
    UTG ($97)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with A, A. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
    1 fold, Button raises to $3, SB (poster) calls $2.50, Hero raises to $9, Button folds, SB calls $7.

    Flop: ($23) Q, T, 6 (2 players)
    SB bets $30, Hero raises to $70, SB calls $40.

    Turn: ($163) 3 (2 players)
    SB bets $55, Hero calls $103.15 (All-In), SB calls $48.15.

    River: ($369.30) 4 (2 players, 1 all-in)

    Final Pot: $369.30

    Results in white below:
    SB has 3d Tc (two pair, tens and threes).
    Hero has Ac Ah (one pair, aces).
    Outcome: SB wins $369.30.
    BR: $.1k
    Goal 2: July 1 $10k

    IIbeatsUU: lol u raised with that?

    you mini raised, therefore you desereve whatever you get....

  5. #5
    oh and just for fun i lost top two pair to a straight to the same guy for another stack like 2 hands later.

    and then KK to AA, and set over set.
    BR: $.1k
    Goal 2: July 1 $10k

    IIbeatsUU: lol u raised with that?

    you mini raised, therefore you desereve whatever you get....

  6. #6
    poker sucks
  7. #7
    Aces only lose small pots, or win big ones


    Seat 1: pfb8888 ($9.20 )
    Seat 2: Darylhitc ($31.93 )

    Nipmuc: posts small blind [$0.10]
    Hairpie posts big blind [$0.25]
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to iloveyooo [ 3c 6s ]
    Walkeye folds.
    pfb8888 calls [$0.25].
    Darylhitc calls [$0.25].
    story folds.
    iloveyooo folds.
    Hayek checks.
    Kingfuker calls [$0.25].
    Nipmuc calls [$0.15].
    Hairpie checks.
    ** Dealing Flop ** [ 9c, Ac, Kh ]
    Nipmuc checks.
    Hairpie checks.
    pfb8888 checks.
    Darylhitc checks.
    Hayek checks.
    Kingfuker checks.
    ** Dealing Turn ** [ 4c ]
    Nipmuc checks.
    Hairpie checks.
    pfb8888 checks.
    Darylhitc bets [$1].
    Hayek folds.
    Kingfuker folds.
    Nipmuc folds.
    Hairpie folds.
    pfb8888 calls [$1].
    ** Dealing River ** [ Jh ]
    pfb8888 bets $1.50.
    Darylhitc calls $1.50.
    pfb8888 shows [Ad, As] three of a kind, aces.
    Darylhitc shows [Jc, 6c] a flush, ace high.
    Darylhitc wins $6.20 from main pot with a flush, ace high.
  8. #8
    I like the re-raise on the original post, he just overvalued his pocket 7's and gave you a bad beat. But the other two hands are a little light pre-flop, no? Just a little over 3xBB? I'd make it 1.25 to go with AA,KK,AK. They may have called regardless seeing as how hand 2 opp called a 3.50 bet with a gut shot and 3 flush.
  9. #9
    Ummm there's really not much wrong with any of the first 3 hands. Don't be so hard on yourself, they were unlucky.
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